Dear all,
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees met in New York City from 5 to 8 March. As usual I am writing to share the outcomes of the meeting and information about other sessions held during the week.
== Board Meeting ==
Our official board meeting took place on March 7, and we were joined by members of the Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC). At the meeting, we approved the December meeting minutes [1], made changes to the Executive Committee Charter [2], and updated the Board committee composition [3]. The terms of our current Vice Chairs, Shani and Esra’a, came to an end, and we welcomed Lorenzo and Kathy into those roles [4].
I would like to acknowledge and thank both Shani and Esra’a for their hard work over many years. The role of Board Vice Chairs is an important one, and I, as Chair, appreciate the additional input and time they have provided over the past three years, supporting the Board and the Foundation’s leadership, as well as their commitment to supporting this transition. I also look forward to working closely with Lorenzo and Kathy as their terms as Vice Chairs begin now. The overall updated Trustee membership is here [5].
During the meeting, Dariusz, Chair of the Board Selection Working Group, gave an update on the 2024 Board selection process status, which you can read more about here [6]. We also heard from Foundation staff on various topics and received an update on the current fiscal year and progress against the Annual Plan [7]. We heard from the Advancement team about donor thank-you page changes, which invited donors to edit and yielded 4,398 new user accounts being created [8]. This experiment was conducted based on feedback from volunteers. As usual, the Board received committee updates in advance of the meeting, which included an important update from the Audit Committee [9].
In its most recent meeting, the Audit Committee discussed and approved a change in how unrealised gains or losses are reported. They will now be counted as non-operating revenues instead of operating revenues, which will bring the financial statements in line with how the Foundation budgets for operating revenues. The Audit Committee also approved an updated Investment Policy that guides how operating reserves are invested. The official Board meeting ended after a brief update from the staff team monitoring the 2024 global elections work.
== Other Sessions & Meetings ==
Movement Charter
The Board, MCDC members, and staff met for a half-day workshop after the Board meeting. I thank the MCDC for their work over the last 2.5 years. It is not easy to take broad recommendations and flesh them out. We spent time together reflecting on the draft Movement Charter and the Foundation’s perspective, particularly about the role of the Global Council [10]. The Foundation’s perspectives will be one of the topics on the agenda at the Open Conversation with the Trustees, hosted by the Community Affairs Committee (CAC) on March 21 [11].
Strategic Retreat
We ended the week on March 8 with a Strategic Retreat, a joint session held with the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, the Endowment Board of Trustees, representatives from MCDC, and Wikimedia Foundation leadership. This included presentations on our three priority topics: (1) financial model, including updates on online revenue trends, Wikimedia Enterprise, and Wikimedia Endowment; (2) product and technology; and (3) roles and responsibilities. We built on the themes established at last year’s Strategic Retreat, including more focus on longer-term planning about the work of the Foundation, and what it will take to ensure our projects continue across generations [12], both technologically and in terms of our financial model. This retreat is one important space for the various leadership groups within the movement to plan, brainstorm, and engage as partners.
Governance Workshop
Our first full day together as the Board, March 5, was focused on a governance workshop for members of the Board. We focused on the role of trustees and committee chairs and shared best (and worst) practices from other boards some of us sit on. This is part of a more comprehensive larger professional development plan that trustees have engaged in over the last three years. We ended the day with a reception hosted at the New York City Chapter’s new shared space (also the home to rescued turtles!) - many thanks to the organisers for your hospitality! We also greatly enjoyed the wiki fashion show!
Sessions with Foundation Leadership
On March 6, we joined Foundation staff for a session on the Annual Planning process. We ended the day with a Board Executive Session which also included discussions with the executive team about leadership development, career growth, and best practices for succession planning at all organisational levels.
The Board will meet again virtually in June to approve the Foundation’s annual plan and budget, and then again in-person at Wikimania in Poland, where I hope to see some of you as well!
[1] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-12-06
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Executive_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_Officers_and_Committe...
[4] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Handb...
[5] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Main
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2024
[7] https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/01/31/progress-on-the-plan-how-the-wikimedia...
[8] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_t...
[9] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-08-15#Committee_updates
[10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter#Wikimedia_Foundation_p...
[11] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Commi...
[12] https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/03/05/wikipedia-a-multigenerational-pursuit/
Take care, and thank you, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
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These updates keep getting better. (I left out the board updates from my recent thanks for regular newsletters lifting all of our boats :)
I realize this is the smallest footnote of a long and significant update, but: does this mean *3% of donors* who saw a thank-you note inviting them to edit went on to make an account and at least one unreverted edit? 3% of all donors is almost as many new editors as we get each year. That's spectacular, staggering, superb. Let's please see how this scales in various dimensions.
W♥, SJ
We heard from the Advancement team about donor thank-you page changes
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia, which invited donors to edit and yielded 4,398 new user accounts being created [8 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia].
As far as I remember, yes—the rate of account creation, making more than one edit, and the percentage of unreverted edits was higher than in other methods. I think this is a spectacular result and a completely unexpected source for the new editors.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 2:47 AM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
These updates keep getting better. (I left out the board updates from my recent thanks for regular newsletters lifting all of our boats :)
I realize this is the smallest footnote of a long and significant update, but: does this mean *3% of donors* who saw a thank-you note inviting them to edit went on to make an account and at least one unreverted edit? 3% of all donors is almost as many new editors as we get each year. That's spectacular, staggering, superb. Let's please see how this scales in various dimensions.
W♥, SJ
We heard from the Advancement team about donor thank-you page changes
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia, which invited donors to edit and yielded 4,398 new user accounts being created [8 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia].
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Hi!
Concerning the point about the WMF BoT's perspective on the Global Council, the European affiliates discussed these perspectives at a recent online meeting last Monday. Here's a summary of this discussion (the points I highlight here are my personal editing choice, you can find a link to the full response on Meta (which also links the full Etherpad notes) at the end of this email.
* Concerning the Global Council running the grants/funding system for non-WMF entities ** The Global Council should have more competencies than just administering grants ** The position or vision of the WMF on the Global Council could be clearer ** Statement doesn’t explain how the WMF will be held accountable within the new system ** The Global council doing grant making would effectively make the communities argue amongst each other, leaving the decision-makers at the WMF out of it. ** We still have no resources to onboard new affiliates. Once a new one is approved, they are left alone to fend for themselves.
* Concerning the Global Council running the affiliates system ** Huge amount of work and bureaucracy of managing an affiliate system is being outsourced to the Global Council and it is unclear who is paying for the resources needed to manage this or who decides how much that is. Looking at AffCom right now a repeat of a massively understaffed system is in no one's interest. ** Suggestions by the WMF BoT for the Global Council appear like they’re supposed to make the Global Council “busy & weak”
* Concerning online banner fundraising on Wikimedia projects ** The "current principles for banner fundraising" do not exist in written form and favor the status quo over any meaningful change within the 2030 strategy ** The WMF not using this donor data to share information or message by the local affiliates is a huge wasted opportunity; there have apparently been instances where this has been done, but there is no written process or documentation ** "Looking for funds elsewhere sometimes requires starting capital" (for example borrowing money from the WMF); requires are more thought through approach to enable affiliates to do this
The full response can be found here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter#Wikimedia_Foundation_p... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter#Wikimedia_Foundation_perspectives_on_the_Global_Council
Best regards, Philip
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 13:42, Victoria Doronina vdoronina@wikimedia.org wrote:
As far as I remember, yes—the rate of account creation, making more than one edit, and the percentage of unreverted edits was higher than in other methods. I think this is a spectacular result and a completely unexpected source for the new editors.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 2:47 AM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
These updates keep getting better. (I left out the board updates from my recent thanks for regular newsletters lifting all of our boats :)
I realize this is the smallest footnote of a long and significant update, but: does this mean *3% of donors* who saw a thank-you note inviting them to edit went on to make an account and at least one unreverted edit? 3% of all donors is almost as many new editors as we get each year. That's spectacular, staggering, superb. Let's please see how this scales in various dimensions.
W♥, SJ
We heard from the Advancement team about donor thank-you page changes
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia, which invited donors to edit and yielded 4,398 new user accounts being created [8 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia].
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On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:05 PM Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
** We still have no resources to onboard new affiliates. Once a new one is approved, they are left alone to fend for themselves.
This is not *quite* true. New affiliates are pointed to this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates[1], which includes a whole set of links to advice and guidelines for new and smaller affiliates.
In my observation, however, few new affiliate leaders take the time to avail themselves of these resources, and given the low traction of these written, on-wiki resources, I can easily see how the impression is that new affiliates are "left alone to fend for themselves", with the next point of contact with the Foundation being if and when they apply for a grant.
One reasonable conclusion may be that a more engaging format (an online, video-based course?) might achieve more traction in guiding new affiliates after their recognition.
A.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates
Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
Lead Program Officer, Community Development Communities
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Hi Asaf!
Yes, thanks for pointing this out! Hopefully with regional networks in place this will also create a tighter net to catch these kind of questions and make affiliate leaders not feel left alone. And maybe the movement charter draft even includes an affiliates model that also outlines one possible direction of organisational development for affiliates? Guess we'll find out soon!
Best, Philip
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 16:27, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:05 PM Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
** We still have no resources to onboard new affiliates. Once a new one is approved, they are left alone to fend for themselves.
This is not *quite* true. New affiliates are pointed to this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates[1], which includes a whole set of links to advice and guidelines for new and smaller affiliates.
In my observation, however, few new affiliate leaders take the time to avail themselves of these resources, and given the low traction of these written, on-wiki resources, I can easily see how the impression is that new affiliates are "left alone to fend for themselves", with the next point of contact with the Foundation being if and when they apply for a grant.
One reasonable conclusion may be that a more engaging format (an online, video-based course?) might achieve more traction in guiding new affiliates after their recognition.
A.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates
Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
Lead Program Officer, Community Development Communities
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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În mie., 27 mar. 2024 la 12:08, Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com a scris:
Hi Asaf!
Yes, thanks for pointing this out! Hopefully with regional networks in place this will also create a tighter net to catch these kind of questions and make affiliate leaders not feel left alone. And maybe the movement charter draft even includes an affiliates model that also outlines one possible direction of organisational development for affiliates? Guess we'll find out soon!
That cannot function independently from the recent Board proposals [2], though...
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy/Rev...
Strainu
Best, Philip
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 16:27, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:05 PM Philip Kopetzky < philip.kopetzky@gmail.com> wrote:
** We still have no resources to onboard new affiliates. Once a new one is approved, they are left alone to fend for themselves.
This is not *quite* true. New affiliates are pointed to this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates[1], which includes a whole set of links to advice and guidelines for new and smaller affiliates.
In my observation, however, few new affiliate leaders take the time to avail themselves of these resources, and given the low traction of these written, on-wiki resources, I can easily see how the impression is that new affiliates are "left alone to fend for themselves", with the next point of contact with the Foundation being if and when they apply for a grant.
One reasonable conclusion may be that a more engaging format (an online, video-based course?) might achieve more traction in guiding new affiliates after their recognition.
A.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates
Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
Lead Program Officer, Community Development Communities
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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All questioning of the BoT and their replies so far have indicated no connection between their review and the movement charter process, so the review is supposedly only designed as a temporary measure...
On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 at 17:14, Strainu strainu10@gmail.com wrote:
În mie., 27 mar. 2024 la 12:08, Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com a scris:
Hi Asaf!
Yes, thanks for pointing this out! Hopefully with regional networks in place this will also create a tighter net to catch these kind of questions and make affiliate leaders not feel left alone. And maybe the movement charter draft even includes an affiliates model that also outlines one possible direction of organisational development for affiliates? Guess we'll find out soon!
That cannot function independently from the recent Board proposals [2], though...
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy/Rev...
Strainu
Best, Philip
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 16:27, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:05 PM Philip Kopetzky < philip.kopetzky@gmail.com> wrote:
** We still have no resources to onboard new affiliates. Once a new one is approved, they are left alone to fend for themselves.
This is not *quite* true. New affiliates are pointed to this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates[1], which includes a whole set of links to advice and guidelines for new and smaller affiliates.
In my observation, however, few new affiliate leaders take the time to avail themselves of these resources, and given the low traction of these written, on-wiki resources, I can easily see how the impression is that new affiliates are "left alone to fend for themselves", with the next point of contact with the Foundation being if and when they apply for a grant.
One reasonable conclusion may be that a more engaging format (an online, video-based course?) might achieve more traction in guiding new affiliates after their recognition.
A.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources_for_New_Affiliates
Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
Lead Program Officer, Community Development Communities
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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Thank you, SJ, for your involvement and thorough review of the Thank You page experiment results! We were particularly delighted to find that some donors exhibit an interest in editing. As Victoria highlights, the edits made by donors experience a significantly lower revert rate compared to those by new account holders on average.
I wanted to clarify that it is not 3% of all donors that go on to make an unreverted edit. All donors are directed to a “Thank You” page after their donations, which includes several calls-to-action. This year, we included a call to “Try editing Wikipedia”. Due to the way that we restrict tracking due to user privacy, the chart representing the editing funnel https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia actually starts once a donor has clicked that call to create an account. In other words, of the people who donated during the Big English banner campaign, only 12,005 actually clicked through from the donor Thank You page to create an account. From those who click through, about 3.7% of people end up completing an unreverted edit.
This idea to encourage donors to edit came directly from the collaboration with volunteers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fundraising/2023_banners#Update_on_inviting_donors_to_edit_&_WikiConference_North_America_discussionswhen we were developing the banners last year. While the percentage of overall donors who funnel into editing is relatively small, we agree the results are encouraging and this is a low effort way to encourage more people to explore contributing to the wikis in new ways. I hope that helps clarify the results of this experiment. We’ve also made some edits to the experiment report to make it easier to understand.
Thanks for helping with this experiment; we’re looking forward to exploring how to build on this in future campaigns!
Megan
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 3:47 AM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
These updates keep getting better. (I left out the board updates from my recent thanks for regular newsletters lifting all of our boats :)
I realize this is the smallest footnote of a long and significant update, but: does this mean *3% of donors* who saw a thank-you note inviting them to edit went on to make an account and at least one unreverted edit? 3% of all donors is almost as many new editors as we get each year. That's spectacular, staggering, superb. Let's please see how this scales in various dimensions.
W♥, SJ
We heard from the Advancement team about donor thank-you page changes
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia, which invited donors to edit and yielded 4,398 new user accounts being created [8 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia].
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I wanted to clarify that it is not 3% of all donors that go on to make an unreverted edit. All donors are directed to a “Thank You” page after their donations, which includes several calls-to-action. This year, we included a call to “Try editing Wikipedia”. Due to the way that we restrict tracking due to user privacy, the chart representing the editing funnel https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia actually starts once a donor has clicked that call to create an account. In other words, of the people who donated during the Big English banner campaign, only 12,005 actually clicked through from the donor Thank You page to create an account. From those who click through, about 3.7% of people end up completing an unreverted edit.
I see, that explains why this wasn't more than a footnote. :) Someone who just donated is unlikely to be a bot or spammer, so not surprising their edit quality is higher.
Once someone decides to try editing, ideally almost all of them would make an edit, without needing to make an account. Perhaps: "Try editing" --> simple interface for easy edits --> make a few edits --> see a few edits by others to review 👎👍 (or offer the same edits to a few people) --> only then make an account via simple creation popup...
Thank you for clarifying and updating the report. I left a few comments on that talk page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects.
SJ
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 1:51 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
I wanted to clarify that it is not 3% of all donors that go on to make an
unreverted edit. All donors are directed to a “Thank You” page after their donations, which includes several calls-to-action. This year, we included a call to “Try editing Wikipedia”. Due to the way that we restrict tracking due to user privacy, the chart representing the editing funnel https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Scaling_the_new_donor_Thank_you_page_to_English_Wikipedia actually starts once a donor has clicked that call to create an account. In other words, of the people who donated during the Big English banner campaign, only 12,005 actually clicked through from the donor Thank You page to create an account. From those who click through, about 3.7% of people end up completing an unreverted edit.
I see, that explains why this wasn't more than a footnote. :) Someone who just donated is unlikely to be a bot or spammer, so not surprising their edit quality is higher.
Once someone decides to try editing, ideally almost all of them would make an edit, without needing to make an account. Perhaps: "Try editing" --> simple interface for easy edits --> make a few edits --> see a few edits by others to review 👎👍 (or offer the same edits to a few people) --> only then make an account via simple creation popup...
We actually have tried something similar years ago (asking unregistered editors to sign up after editing or even as a part of saving) and it didn’t really work. The thing is that we’ve never really explained why there’s a compelling reason to have an account to edit I think.
The Growth team has done a good job though in recent years with recommended tasks for new editors. It’s not perfect but once you sign up there is a pretty good onboarding path. One thing I’d love to see is testing more of a focus on joining WikiProjects. Generic mentorship and tasks are good, but connecting with a group of people also interested in your topic of choice is cooler. It’s why social products like Reddit, Facebook Groups, etc are so sticky.
The truth is with any engagement, reading or editing, there will be a steep drop off rate in many (if not most) steps in a process. It’s still very nice to see edits happen as a part of the fundraising campaigns. The call to participate has no downside even if the impact is relatively small.
Thank you for clarifying and updating the report. I left a few comments on that talk page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects .
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