Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their founding.
And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were started before the User Group category was in existence.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting; however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions; however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the meta talk page. Thank you!
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How about the Wikivoyage association…. We have been existing for 7 years now, and applied for being recognized as a thematic organisation.
Von: Pharos Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Februar 2014 20:57 An: Wikimedia Mailing List
Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their founding.
And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were started before the User Group category was in existence.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting; however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions; however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the meta talk page. Thank you!
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If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should apply to be a user group.
Phoebe On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos" pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their founding.
And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were started before the User Group category was in existence.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
decisions
that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
same
amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
decided
that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
years
of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
incorporated
entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting; however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
decisions;
however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the meta talk page. Thank you!
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And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If a group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go from no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access to grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but that's not exactly always an easy process... On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, "phoebe ayers" phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should apply to be a user group.
Phoebe On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos" pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their founding.
And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were started before the User Group category was in existence.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
decisions
that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
FDC/Annual
plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
same
amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
decided
that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
years
of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
incorporated
entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting; however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
decisions;
however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the meta talk page. Thank you!
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Oops, sorry for typos (and top posting, I'm on my phone). I meant to say I don't think becoming a user group is a penalty. On Feb 12, 2014 1:26 PM, "phoebe ayers" phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If a group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go from no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access to grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but that's not exactly always an easy process... On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, "phoebe ayers" phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should apply to be a user group.
Phoebe On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos" pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their founding.
And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were started before the User Group category was in existence.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
decisions
that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
FDC/Annual
plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
same
amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
decided
that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
years
of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
incorporated
entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
There is also a FAQ on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting; however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
decisions;
however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on
the
meta talk page. Thank you!
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