New subject: Enc: Rodrigo versus Rodrigo (was Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers)

31 Oct 2015

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton <
rodrigo.argenton(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

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 [5]some samples of local community interacting with Padula's "ideas":

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Brazilian_Group_of_Education…
 https://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:Rodrigo_Padula
 follow the thread:
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediabr-l/2014-August/015754.html

 Since R-Argenton provided some messages written by me in public opposition
against R-Padula in the past year, let's me write few lines updating the
subject.

R-Padula acted in many disruptive ways in a very complex Game of Thrones
WMF edition that ended in project results and partial lost of community
interest. Emphasis on partial. I'll explain it in another point of this
message. Let's say that R-Padula is our local Petyr Baelish.

R-Argenton for years is behind brazilian volunteers most of time on yet
more disruptive ways plus doing almost nothing on online projects or even
on outreach activities. Argenton may replies to it as "because I'm
blocked!" and I leaves to those who may be interested to think for the
reasons a community will choose to block a very experienced contributor.

Please don't read this as I advocating for Padula. Quite the opposite, I'm
only suggesting to ignore the bad mood from Argenton and really focus on
measurements and governance points proposed by Fæ.

Time to write few lines about the "partial lost of community interest"
point.

The now defunct Programa Catalisador do Brasil revealed the bad side of
some people (R-Argenton excluded from this, at least) and created a very
interesting GoT WMF remix that ended in many political fights exactly as on
the HBO series. But the community members where all benevolent zombies,
sometimes attending events, but most of time doing nothing. Nothing at all.

I personally leaved any attempt to do 'real-world' things after the renew
of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil (not to be confused with the UG
that R-Padula is the leader). As far I can see, the last action of that UG
was to get renewed and eventually being present on Wikimania... Well, I
*really* don't want to say any more on this UG.

My current involvement to WMF is only to do random things on Wikisource and
Wikidata as I can do random things on any website, without further
interest. Not only due to the GoT WMF.br remixed edition, but also for many
issues on a more global level (WMF is constantly contracting new staff and
their servers are most unstable than back in 2004-2005... Only in sake of
example, since there are REALLY many issues, T71311
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71311>, a huge data loss, is still
unsolved most due to the laziness of the involved staff while in any normal
entity it may result in an entire team working until solve it... should I
do anything on governance issues related to resources allocated to Brazil
while in the meantime the WMF is doing anything on their own governance,
only spending money on fees until gets bankrupt and with all data lost
forever in a huge bug not so hypothetical as many of you think? Not ever).
So, please, don't refer anymore to any past message written by me,
R-Argenton and any other portuguese-speaking person.

If the money collected by the WMF is bad spent in Brazil maybe is because
the WMF is entirely at this moment only bad spending their resources. So
there is no need to demonize R-Padula, since the entire WMF should stop
in different ways to reinvent the wheel and start producting things that
uses wheels.

Beijos, não me liga*,
[[User:555]]
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* a quite old meme from Brazil