WereSpielChequers,
I talked about that in the thread, if WLM and WLE would be closer (some
countries are) to communities WP, Commons,... the result would be better.
" I would like to see Wikimedia Commons volunteers be involved in the
process, to create more clear, précised, and aligned rules for the contest,
otherwise they will use Commons as a uploader" same for WP. This
communities, directly impacted by this contests should develop the metrics,
not the ones requesting money.
How this projects will help WP/Commons if they are not listening the
communities? They probably are creating more problem than solutions.
This talk is about that:
On 31 October 2015 at 18:57, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Maybe it is time to reconsider some of our standard
metrics for wiki loves
monuments.
One of the big gains in several countries has been to get a list of
monuments into Wikipedia maybe in future direct into wikidata. I think that
the standard metrics should reflect that, OK it is metadata, but our
metrics should put more value on the metadata we achieve.
Sometimes wiki loves monuments gives us lots more images of something we
already have reasonable pictures of. Sometimes it gives us images of
notable monuments that we don't yet have articles about. Or it gives us
interior shots of a building that already have a featured photo of the
exterior.
I suggest we think of three metrics here:
How many monuments have we gone from no images to images?
How many monuments do we have better quality images for?
How many monuments do we have images for more of their features?
Number of images used is an over hasty metric, perhaps five years after
the contest we could measure this and get a very different statistic.
Sometimes we need much more patience to see how wikipedians will use
materials over time. This is likely to be especially true in countries
where we don't currently have much coverage in terms of articles.
Another way to tell the story is to give us examples of gaps that we have
filled. For example, the article on ******* church explained that it was
listed as a national monument because of the quality of the frescos inside
it, as a result of WLM we now have photos of those frescos available for
the article.
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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:23:45 -0200
From: Rodrigo Padula <rodrigopadula(a)wikimedia.org.br>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Enc: Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers
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I see a lot of good results and contributions here and as pointed by
Ilario, we
reached great part of our measures of success
WLM 2015
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Campaign:wlm-br
- 4.453 photos
- 411 uploaders
- 325 new users registered on commons
WLM 2014+2015
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Campaign:wle-br
- 20 095 photos
- 2866 uploaders
- 2727 new users registered on commons
Only to complete, the first place on WLE 2014 was elected the second
place on the
WLE 2014 International and that same picture was selected in
7# place during the picture of the year on commons.
Now in 2015 we have more pictures selected in the WLE international
contest.
Including all the media coverage and all impact on social media, for a
small User
Group approved in 2015, it's huge!!!
Rodrigo Padula
Coordenador de Projetos
Grupo Wikimedia Brasileiro de Educação e Pesquisa
http://www.wikimedia.org.br
21 99326-0558
---- Em Sáb, 31 Out 2015 15:43:49 -0200 Ilario
Valdelli&lt;valdelli(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu ----
Again, and again.
"Success for whom"?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Community_Brazilian_Gr…
The section "measure of success" reports:
at least 400 participants uploading one photograph or more;
at least 5,000 photos uploaded;
at least 15% of photos used on Wikipedia;
at least 50% of new users engagement during the contest;
at least 10 new articles about natural heritage sites in Brasil;
at least 10% of new user retention after 2 months of the contest.
Rodrigo reports:
Pictures uploaded: 4.443
Uploaders: 411
New users registered on Commons: 325
New users engagement: 79%
Pictures user on Wikipedia: 86 (2%)
Are the goals reached? Basically yes. When the project has been financed
it was clear that the definition "success" was based on those measures.
There is no success for a specific person on an individual and personal
criteria.
The user group of Brazil has not asked nothing special, this is a normal
budget for any WLM or WLE in several countries.
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