5. In another situation, 1. Mr.A own user123@frwikipedia: 50000 edits count 2. Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at that time, he refuse to be sysop 3. Mr.B own user123@lowikipedia: 10000 edits count 4. After SUL, user123 has not been merged by anyone 5. In someday later (after SUL), Mr.B has been elected to be sysop on lowikipedia 6. At that time (after Mr.B got sysop), who will get the homewiki?
6. The next situation, 1. Mr.A own user123@frwikipedia: 50000 edits count 2. Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at that time, he refuse to be sysop 3. Mr.B own user123@lowikipedia: 10000 edits count 4. When SUL is enabled for sysop only, 4.1 Mr.A try to merge his account, but he can't, since he is not sysop 4.2 Mr.B is sysop on lowikipedia, and Mr.B successfully merge his user123 account (after Mr.A fail to merge) 5. When SUL is enabled for everyone, Mr.A try to merge his account again, but he got the message "user123 has already been merged by user123@lowikipedia"!!! 6. Can Mr.A request steward to delete global account of Mr.B?
Anon Sricharoenchai wrote:
- In another situation,
- Mr.A own user123@frwikipedia: 50000 edits count
- Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at
that time, he refuse to be sysop 3. Mr.B own user123@lowikipedia: 10000 edits count 4. After SUL, user123 has not been merged by anyone 5. In someday later (after SUL), Mr.B has been elected to be sysop on lowikipedia 6. At that time (after Mr.B got sysop), who will get the homewiki?
By default, it would go to Mr. B, as Mr. B has a privileged account while Mr. A does not, and the heuristic gives preference to privileged accounts if they exist.
If they choose to swap positions, that can be easily taken care of.
- The next situation,
- Mr.A own user123@frwikipedia: 50000 edits count
- Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at
that time, he refuse to be sysop 3. Mr.B own user123@lowikipedia: 10000 edits count 4. When SUL is enabled for sysop only, 4.1 Mr.A try to merge his account, but he can't, since he is not sysop 4.2 Mr.B is sysop on lowikipedia, and Mr.B successfully merge his user123 account (after Mr.A fail to merge) 5. When SUL is enabled for everyone, Mr.A try to merge his account again, but he got the message "user123 has already been merged by user123@lowikipedia"!!! 6. Can Mr.A request steward to delete global account of Mr.B?
Sure, he can ask. :)
Note that it would be rude for Mr. Steward to do so without the agreement of Mr. B, who has legitimate claim to the account. But if they agree, or there is other very good reason to switch the account ownership, it can be easily taken care of.
Note that the two given scenarios are identical because the test rollout to sysops was the same group of people who are preferred by the heuristic (first privileged accounts, then the most edits within that set).
-- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
Hi there Two questions: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
By default, it would go to Mr. B, as Mr. B has a privileged account while Mr. A does not, and the heuristic gives preference to privileged accounts if they exist.
If they choose to swap positions, that can be easily taken care of.
1. If both users are a sysop on their home wiki? 2. Currently it seems anyone cannot combine their accounts if one of them is blocked. I think it may cause some troubles (this year people can vote even if they have a blocked account, if they have a valid voting-eligible one on another wiki). Is it possible to change the current setting and allow them to unify their accounts?
On 5/30/08, Aphaia aphaia@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there Two questions:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
By default, it would go to Mr. B, as Mr. B has a privileged account while Mr. A does not, and the heuristic gives preference to privileged accounts if they exist.
If they choose to swap positions, that can be easily taken care of.
- If both users are a sysop on their home wiki?
According to function chooseHomeWiki() in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/Centr... if both are sysop, the edit count will be considered.
- Currently it seems anyone cannot combine their accounts if one of
them is blocked. I think it may cause some troubles (this year people can vote even if they have a blocked account, if they have a valid voting-eligible one on another wiki). Is it possible to change the current setting and allow them to unify their accounts?
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/Centr... in function chooseHomeWiki( $migrationSet ), why not check for blocked account like this?,
$maxEdits = -1; $homeWiki = null; foreach( $workingSet as $wiki => $local ) { if( $local['editCount'] > $maxEdits && !$local['blocked']) { # <-- added code here $homeWiki = $wiki; $maxEdits = $local['editCount']; } }
On 5/30/08, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
Anon Sricharoenchai wrote:
- In another situation,
- Mr.A own user123@frwikipedia: 50000 edits count
- Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at
that time, he refuse to be sysop 3. Mr.B own user123@lowikipedia: 10000 edits count 4. After SUL, user123 has not been merged by anyone 5. In someday later (after SUL), Mr.B has been elected to be sysop on lowikipedia 6. At that time (after Mr.B got sysop), who will get the homewiki?
By default, it would go to Mr. B, as Mr. B has a privileged account while Mr. A does not, and the heuristic gives preference to privileged accounts if they exist.
If they choose to swap positions, that can be easily taken care of.
Why sysop should always take more precedence than user? Mr.A may not want to be sysop, because he really want to have the same equality as most other user. Mr.A may believe and respect in equality of wikipedian, so he try to be equal to others as much as possible.
- The next situation,
- Mr.A own user123@frwikipedia: 50000 edits count
- Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at
that time, he refuse to be sysop 3. Mr.B own user123@lowikipedia: 10000 edits count 4. When SUL is enabled for sysop only, 4.1 Mr.A try to merge his account, but he can't, since he is not sysop 4.2 Mr.B is sysop on lowikipedia, and Mr.B successfully merge his user123 account (after Mr.A fail to merge) 5. When SUL is enabled for everyone, Mr.A try to merge his account again, but he got the message "user123 has already been merged by user123@lowikipedia"!!! 6. Can Mr.A request steward to delete global account of Mr.B?
Sure, he can ask. :)
However, after Mr.B is revoked global account, the home wiki is still owned by Mr.B, and only Mr.B can create global account again :(
Note that it would be rude for Mr. Steward to do so without the agreement of Mr. B, who has legitimate claim to the account. But if they
What is legitimate? Who can judge which one is legitimate? Who can judge the sysop status and edit count is legitimate?
agree, or there is other very good reason to switch the account ownership, it can be easily taken care of.
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