I'm guessing that he's referring to the attendees of a GLAM meeting that was held in Paris a few months ago and is comprehensively documented on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_European_GLAMwiki_Coordinators_meeting Yesterday, I asked the ~15 attendees of that meeting a followup question about my own work, and called them the "paris group" in that email as a shorthand. As far as I know, that's the only time the phrase has been used in a GLAM-specific context.
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On 9 June 2015 at 12:15, Benoît Evellin (Trizek) bevellin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello Base
Guessing from your first email, the "Paris group" you mention may be this mailing list hosted by Wikimédia France http://lists.wikimedia.fr/info/paris, which allows people living in Paris discuss about their local IRL actions (like visiting museums).
This list is not a generic mailing-list, like lists hosted by WMF.
Best, Benoît
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Bohdan Melnychuk base-w@yandex.ru wrote:
Your comment does not cover the fact that not all lists are hosted by lists.wikimedia.org.
E.g. cultural partnership is here:
https://intern.wikimedia.ch/lists/listinfo/cultural-partners
Some other chapters also host lists and there're googlegroups to consider. That's a one thing why a mere server listing of lists does not suffice. Another is that an automatical list listing isn't where you can write rules, membership procedure/criteria and other stuff needed for transparency. Well not just transparency issue but also of need to concentrate data in one place is to be considered. --Base
On 09.06.2015 3:40, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
The canonical home for the list of lists is https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo. While it is possible to have a list hidden from there, it would be pretty unusual for a GLAM list, I think.
pb
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Bohdan Melnychuk base-w@yandex.ru wrote:
Hi guys.
Just how many GLAM lists do we have?
Not counting regional ones, I know of GLAM, Cultural-Partners, Libraries, got to know about existence of some the "paris group" (not sure if it's even a mailing list technically, but in case it's not then it's weird even more). Perhaps there are some (or is it many?) others.
Should they not be all listed in one place, e.g. on https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Mailing_lists with clear data about who manages them, what are their scope, rules and how you might joint them?
Just having many is already confusing but when you can't even get a list of all of them it's confusing even more.
I'm sorry if some of the lists I listed were intended as cabalish and not to be disclosed to others. I don't think cabalish lists are a good way to collaborate for wikimedians.
Yours sincerely, Base
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Yes, that's the one I'm about. It's good that all these things are documented at least somewhere but it would be good to have them in one place. I don't think it's a very nice thing when we have almost half a dozen of GLAM lists all documented in different places. It's not very important who actually hosts them.
I suggest that all GLAM lists are to be listed on https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Mailing_lists with some details on them. --Base
On 09.06.2015 13:40, Liam Wyatt wrote:
I'm guessing that he's referring to the attendees of a GLAM meeting that was held in Paris a few months ago and is comprehensively documented on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_European_GLAMwiki_Coordinators_meeting
Yesterday, I asked the ~15 attendees of that meeting a followup question about my own work, and called them the "paris group" in that email as a shorthand. As far as I know, that's the only time the phrase has been used in a GLAM-specific context.
-Liam
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On 9 June 2015 at 12:15, Benoît Evellin (Trizek) <bevellin@wikimedia.org mailto:bevellin@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hello Base Guessing from your first email, the "Paris group" you mention may be this mailing list hosted by Wikimédia France <http://lists.wikimedia.fr/info/paris>, which allows people living in Paris discuss about their local IRL actions (like visiting museums). This list is not a generic mailing-list, like lists hosted by WMF. Best, Benoît On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Bohdan Melnychuk <base-w@yandex.ru <mailto:base-w@yandex.ru>> wrote: Your comment does not cover the fact that not all lists are hosted by lists.wikimedia.org <http://lists.wikimedia.org>. E.g. cultural partnership is here: https://intern.wikimedia.ch/lists/listinfo/cultural-partners Some other chapters also host lists and there're googlegroups to consider. That's a one thing why a mere server listing of lists does not suffice. Another is that an automatical list listing isn't where you can write rules, membership procedure/criteria and other stuff needed for transparency. Well not just transparency issue but also of need to concentrate data in one place is to be considered. --Base On 09.06.2015 3:40, Philippe Beaudette wrote: The canonical home for the list of lists is https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo. While it is possible to have a list hidden from there, it would be pretty unusual for a GLAM list, I think. pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 <tel:1-415-839-6885%20x6643> | philippe@wikimedia.org <mailto:philippe@wikimedia.org> | : @Philippewiki <https://twitter.com/Philippewiki> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Bohdan Melnychuk <base-w@yandex.ru <mailto:base-w@yandex.ru>> wrote: Hi guys. Just how many GLAM lists do we have? Not counting regional ones, I know of GLAM, Cultural-Partners, Libraries, got to know about existence of some the "paris group" (not sure if it's even a mailing list technically, but in case it's not then it's weird even more). Perhaps there are some (or is it many?) others. Should they not be all listed in one place, e.g. on https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Mailing_lists with clear data about who manages them, what are their scope, rules and how you might joint them? Just having many is already confusing but when you can't even get a list of all of them it's confusing even more. I'm sorry if some of the lists I listed were intended as cabalish and not to be disclosed to others. I don't think cabalish lists are a good way to collaborate for wikimedians. Yours sincerely, Base _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org>?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org>?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ GLAM mailing list GLAM@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:GLAM@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam -- Benoît Evellin (Trizek) Community Liaison, Product Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ GLAM mailing list GLAM@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:GLAM@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam
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