Victoria,

Does the restriction on "Disclosure of a person's identity or other private information without their consent" forbid the Foundation from sharing the geolocation and IP addresses of editors with researchers under NDA or law enforcement officials claiming to have, e.g., an Interpol subpoena?

Sincerely, Jim Salsman

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Victoria Coleman vcoleman@wikimedia.org wrote:

Hello everyone,

The executive leadership team, on behalf of the Foundation, would like to issue a statement of unequivocal support for the Code of Conduct[1] and the community-led Code of Conduct Committee. We believe that the development and implementation of the Code are vital in ensuring the healthy functioning of our technical communities and spaces. The Code of Conduct was created to address obstacles and occasionally very problematic personal communications that limit participation and cause real harm to community members and staff. In engaging in this work we are setting the tone for the ways we collaborate in tech. We are saying that treating others badly is not welcome in our communities. And we are joining an important movement in the tech industry to address these problems in a way that supports self-governance consistent with our values.

This initiative is critical in continuing the amazing work of our projects and ensuring that they continue to flourish in delivering on the critical vision of being the essential infrastructure of free knowledge now and forever.

Toby, Maggie, Eileen, Heather, Lisa, Katherine, Jaime, Joady, and Victoria

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct

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James, let's stay on topic, please. If you want to talk about other issues then please start a new thread.

Victoria, I have mixed feelings about this statement.

I agree that we want to have civility in technical spaces, and a technical code of conduct is one important way of working toward that goal. I also agree that having ways to resolve disputes and deal with problematic behavior is important.

On the other hand, I think several aspects of your statement are less than ideal.

* This situation is being discussed civilly in a single thread on Wikitech-l, and I see no reason to start a new thread.

* You added Wikimedia-l to this discussion, and Wikimedia-l is outside of the scope of the TCoC. I think that adding Wikimedia-l to the discussion is an unnecessary escalation. Please refrain from unnecessary escalations.

* While the opinions of the WMF executives are somewhat influential, my understanding is that WMF wants the Technical Code of Conduct and the committee that enforces it to have political legitimacy in the community. Involvement of the WMF C-levels works against that. I think that you should let the participants in the discussion (which I feel is now generally tense but constructive) work out this situation among themselves / ourselves without the intervention of WMF executives. Although there are situations in which the intervention of WMF executives would be helpful, I think that this isn't one of them.

* The statement that you made comes across to me as endorsing the status quo. I am not sure that this was your intent. I feel that adjustments to policies and practices should be considered, partially based on the constructive portions of the discussions that are happening on Wikitech-l.

I agree that the TCoC Committee has a difficult job when the try to do it well, and I support the goal of having civility in technical spaces. I think that it would be possible, and appropriate, to express support for good-faith efforts of the Committee's members and those participating in the discussion in Wikitech-l, and for the goals of the CoC, without unnecessary escalation or intervention from WMF executives that may make a difficult situation more challenging. Sometimes less involvement is the better way to achieve one's goals.

Thank you for listening,

Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )