Mike Godwin wrote:
Robert Hornung writes:
What has been suggested here by Mike and Andrew
not a modification of the GFDL to an updated version, but suggesting
that some sort of community vote could happen here that would simply
ignore that the GFDL even exists, and simply replacing the default
license on all Wikimedia projects to something like CC-by-SA.
This suggestion is wholly incorrect. What we have been talking about
is working with FSF to develop an update of GFDL that better
accommodates wikis and that also is harmonized with the terms of a
revised versino of CC-BY-SA.
Note, by the way, that criticisms of other CC licenses generally don't
tell us much about about possible objections to CC-BY-SA specifically.
I think CC-BY-SA is already very close to GFDL in terms of how it
I have not agreed to have my contributions
released under any other
license other than the GFDL, and that is all I'm asserting. The flame
is coming from the presumption that I am insisting on maintaining
everything under the terms of the GFDL v 1.2, and that is not what I'm
saying. I'm simply declaring in a public forum that I am asserting my
copyright on my contributions to Wikimedia projects, and insisting
they remain under the terms of the GFDL.... nothing more or less than
simply this. The rest is reaction to this bold statement, as if the
GFDL doesn't matter at all.
I think because of your incorrect statement of the issue (see above),
what you say in this paragraph is pretty much irrelevant. We're
talking about a revision of GFDL, not an abandonment of it.
Not to be over critical here, but you weren't very clear in the parts I
was responding to that this was a discussion strictly about the GFDL.
I'm sorry that this turned into a flame, and certainly my intention is
pretty clear here.
Mind you, if I am getting all brought up into a major flame thread here,
where I'm more or less agreeing with you, this could be incredibly
explosive if it is mis-stated elsewhere and others besides myself
interpreted what you said as an abandonment of the GFDL in favor of a CC
license. At least you have a chance here, Mike, to respond to what I'm
saying and trying to diffuse this, instead of trying to stop a slashdot
story that says "Mike Godwin, general counsel for the Wikimedia
Foundation, suggests that Wikipedia may not be using the GFDL any
more". Gee, that would be a horrible headline, and one that I hope
doesn't get written.
Mind you, I'm glad that you are involved with the Free Software
Foundation in terms of trying to address problems that Wikipedia users
(and other Wikimedia users) are having with the GFDL. I'm sure that I
would have some different opinions on some fine points than you have...
mainly because we are different people from different backgrounds and
experience. Keep up the good work, and I hope that you can help make a
positive difference here.
-- Robert Horning