On 1/18/07, thomasasta(a)gmx.net <thomasasta(a)gmx.net> wrote:
So.. searching and providing information is the core
competency of wikipedia and the >foundations mission... and this is in the next step
the webcontent outside wikipedia.
There is a difference between providing information, indexing
information, and searching for information.
wikipedia is a good startpoint to learn and explore,
and this is not bounded to the world >outside, sic the webinks: so we need a search
engine.
We seem to get by without one.
The open and participation movement has to go on, for
the rest of the web and correlated >to the community of wikipedia, this is why the
foundation is in the boat to develop or >support a p2p search engine.
Not really.
Is it too much asked, to not code this app?
We have no spare developer resources.
to not promote this app?
We generally try to avoid directly promoting third party projects.
Just to add the wikiedia content to the index yacy
machine? This job can do 50 servers, >we do not need human resources, so this is why I
asked for 10.000 dollars for the >hardware.
There are a lot of other things we could do with $10,000
Sometimes I think the money is spent wrong because of
a satisfied organization with a >lack of innovation and inspiration. All are satisfied
with the wikipedia, which is a stable >system and the money is done to any bureau copy
machine, than to invest into the >hardware for new adresesm, users get information
from.
Wikipedia is hardly our only project. there is commons Wiktionary,
Wikinews, Wikiversity etc.
Don´t missunderstand me. I tried to start a subproject
to found here
as well, but it is not >granted, so we need just the hardware.
Experience suggests you would need far more than that.
50 servers for 199 Euro, which is 150 US Dollars per
each.
I think there is an error in you calculations.
The foundation needs to realize it´s own core
competencies: providing information and >now it is time to get rid of the boarder of
wiki-urls and rest of the world urls. We need an >indexing p2p machine.
Why?
The claim itself came from Jimmy Wales, himself
Founder of the open participatin idea, >and generated a big hypoe in the world.
Umm wikis are generally credited to Ward Cunningham.
But now, as wikiseek is out and discussions have been
done, we see, that a advertising >for profit peroject is the wrong way. It should have
been in the right place here discussed >from the foundation.
Wikiseek doesn't have much to do with us.
I wounder, why this is not done and how we can get
into it.
Wikiasari idea is even mroe related to wikifoundation than to wikiasari.
This shows wikiseek, which expells back to wikipedia.
Neither are foundation projects.
And this is the reason I am trying to vote here for
10.000 Dollars for 50 yacy desktop >computers to index every wikipedia to this p2p
network as an alternativ eopen source >search eninge.
So who can decide over the dollars to buy this hardware?
Technically that would be within the remit of the board but they are
unlikely to do so
Well, it need not to be 50 in the fist moth, let´s say
10 for the english wikipedia and we >create as well a demo-search portal with a big
local index of wikipedia like >www.yacysearch.com
Have you any idea how big the en .wikipedia database is?
Furthermore, why can´t any foudation list member
answer the question, which software >for the wikipediasearch box are used right now as
a centrals earch engine? is financial and >technical staff so devided?
Going by [[Special:version]] we use LuceneSearch.
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geni