preferred standards of presenting information based on
article
representation in major Wikipedias. Using primary research analysis of the
number of images, references, internal links, external links, words, and
characters, as well as their proportions in Good and Featured articles on
the eight largest Wikipedias, we discover a high diversity of approaches
and format preferences, correlating with culture. We demonstrate that
high-quality standards in information presentation are not globally shared
and that in many aspects, the language culture's influence determines what
is perceived to be proper, desirable, and exemplary for encyclopedic
entries. As a result, we demonstrate that standards for encyclopedic
knowledge are not globally agreed-upon and “objective” but local and very
subjective.
The number of pillars depends on the language
version...
And whether some rules is called pilöar not dpes not seem to be pf much
importance
Ziko
John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> schrieb am Do. 3. Aug. 2017 um 14:42:
Five pillars are moot.
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The moment you have a centralised policy you take
away the ability to
discuss, makes decisions, and achieve consensus from the community that
create the projects. Importantly you create the opportunity for banned
and
blocked editors to decide what happens in a
community.
By having a base set of simple policies in the Incubator that are
atuomatically created when a project starts up you give them the best
guide
> to establishing themselves well before that project goes live, ince a
> project is live it has to be allowed to develop its community.
>
> We already have the 5 pillars which are the basis for the projects, but
> meta is not a place that the content creating community spends a lot of
> time.
>
> On 3 August 2017 at 19:07, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Having centralized core policies would lessen the maintenance and
> process,
> > not increase them.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > The core policies should be the ones pushed by board resolution,
and
> > > those should be the absolute
minimum required to keep the projects
> > > safe from a legal POV. Period. Otherwise, people with little
> > > understanding of small Wikipedias will try to push stuff from
en.wp.
> > > Just recently someone was trying
to have an RFC on meta on all the
> > > different processes that en.wp has and ro.wp does not have, with
> > > little consideration on whether the manpower to implement, let
alone
> >
maintain, these processes exists. No thank you to rule pushing
without
> > > local context.
> > >
> > > Having a community take a rule from en.wp is different, just as
long
> >
as some kind of discussion happens within the community about it.
Even
> > if the rule is really useless or
harmful and the community did not
> > realize that in the beginning, at least it can evolve differently
from
> > the English one. Have a centralized
repository and trying to change
> > the rules there by consensus would be much more difficult for small
> > communities.
> >
> > Strainu
> >
> > 2017-08-02 17:05 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com>om>:
> > > Nearly all Wikipedia projects has virtually the same core content
> > policies,
> > > but with slightly different wording. Nearly all, because a lot of
the
> > > smaller lacks them, and a lot has
outdated or only partial
policies.
> It
> > > > takes a lot of time to actually make them and keep them updated.
> > > >
> > > > Creating and maintaining the core content policies should not be
> > > something
> > > > that small projects should invest a lot of time in, they should
> simply
> > be
> > > > able to point to existing policies on Meta. The central policies
> should
> > > be
> > > > localized if necessary.
> > > >
> > > > Checking Meta I find
> > > > -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_no_original_research_
policy
> > -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view
> >
> > I can't find anything like "Verifiability".
> >
> > Would it be possible for Wikimedia Foundation to make some sound
baseline
> > policies, and with the option for local projects to refine those?
Perhaps
> > with assistance from editors on Wikipedia?
> >
> > Lets try to make the policies accurate, without "no original
research"
> > > diverging into verifiability of external sources. It should be
about
> > > original research in content on
Wikipedia. Likewise, at some
projects
> > > neutral point of view has become
"do not diverge from creators
point
> of
> > > > view"…
> > > >
> > > > Would this be possible? It would be really nice if those baseline
> > > policies
> > > > pages could be copied to the individual projects like central
user
>
pages,
> > > so they would be "internal" to the projects. Thus the projects
would
> > have
> > > > more "ownership" of them.
> > > >
> > > > The same thing apply to other meta projects (Wikipedia,
Wikibooks,
> >
> Wiktionary, etc).
> > >
> > > Jeblad
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