Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 30

Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group (Jan-Bart de Vreede) 2. Re: Fwd: "Free Culture Conservancy" exploratory meeting in NY, April 12th. (David Gerard) 3. Re: [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group (Jan-Bart de Vreede) 4. Re: [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group (Thomas Dalton) 5. IRC office hours with the Localisation team 2012-04-18 16:30 UTC (Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)) 6. Re: [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group (Samuel Klein) 7. Sister Projects Committee (Thehelpfulone) 8. BBC Open Content (Richard Symonds) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:54:48 +0200 From: Jan-Bart de Vreede &lt;jdevreede(a)wikimedia.org&gt; To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group Message-ID: &lt;37B6DB8B-BE16-47EF-AD30-8562CDB61885(a)wikimedia.org&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was assuming that the questions were asked to Barry, who would know the answer. I would not presume to do it for him, and I do not know the best answer :) What I was literally reacting to was your assumption that because no one has told you why it is necessary, it must be unnecessary. I assume that Barry has a good reason for doing things the way he plans to do them. It is fine to ask questions and clarification, but lets assume that he thought about this and has good arguments :) Jan-Bart On 10 apr. 2012, at 14:09, Thomas Dalton wrote: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:54:56 +0100 From: David Gerard &lt;dgerard(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: "Free Culture Conservancy" exploratory meeting in NY, April 12th. Message-ID: &lt;CAJ0tu1G+BqN1RwZUytjQ92sb7-8V4juyEvqUK3Z1GfTAJfhDoQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 10 April 2012 13:42, Andrew Gray &lt;andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk&gt; wrote: There are people trying to do this with out-of-print science fiction, for example. AIUI, one of the big problems is author's estates with wild ideas of what an out-of-print midlist novel from the 1960s is actually worth (demanding ~$100k, etc). It's a tricky one. But successes would presumably snowball. - d. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:56:52 +0200 From: Jan-Bart de Vreede &lt;jdevreede(a)wikimedia.org&gt; To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group Message-ID: &lt;FBBA7E53-E9CF-4096-9D66-1B5F179FD99F(a)wikimedia.org&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 10 apr. 2012, at 14:31, Thomas Dalton wrote: Sure "just about everything" as in 1) Who should be on this committee 2) On what kind of requests should they form an opinion (not microgrants for example) 3) What are criteria 4) What is the process/timeline + 401 other things that we can come up with as questions. Jan-Bart ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:59:02 +0100 From: Thomas Dalton &lt;thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group Message-ID: &lt;CALTQcccBwEbOA3txzuMu1ttkcWXaSP2cUH5V7gYbpkUtQfxi0g(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 10 April 2012 13:56, Jan-Bart de Vreede &lt;jdevreede(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: But how many of those things are actually going to be difficult or controversial? Shouldn't we at least try and answer them using our standard approach of having an open discussion on a wiki? If it turns out we can't answer them that way, then we can try a more elaborate approach then. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:10:23 +0200 From: "Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)" &lt;smazeland(a)wikimedia.org&gt; To: Wikimedia Foundation &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with the Localisation team 2012-04-18 16:30 UTC Message-ID: &lt;CAMoMWq1rCmOYC_gx8TqY43MZ+FPXrSiErCmr+AZM1DYJTxDokA(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everyone, I just wanted to give advance notice about IRC office hours with the Localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation. Date: 2012-04-18 (every third Wednesday of the month from now on) Time: 16.30 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office As usual, more logistical info and time conversion links are available on Meta.[2] For a taste of what the localization team has been up to, I highly recommend the blog posts we are have written since out last office hours in February.[3] Thanks, and we'll talk to you later next week! -- Siebrand Mazeland Product Manager Localisation Wikimedia Foundation 1. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localisation_team 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours 3. http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-lo… Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:37:38 -0400 From: Samuel Klein &lt;meta.sj(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group Message-ID: &lt;CAAtU9WL9U6qTLGFG8V3qfXD5MDnXpqD_92WxRHogRWsbPAu7dA(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Thomas Dalton &lt;thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Naturally the process should be public and inclusive. I expect most of this group's work would involve open discussion on wikis. Wiki discussions can be enhanced by calls and in-person meetings, suitably transcribed and shared - especially when getting input from people who are not active wiki users. A structure and timeline for work, and a group of committed good-faith participants to provide a steady core for ongoing discussion, is a good idea for any time-sensitive project. We don't want to appoint FDC members themselves without more discussion and perhaps a distributed selection process, but the background work should begin as soon as possible. As to 'which things would be controversial': as you demonstrated here, even simple discussions can be dominated by a determined critic. SJ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:50:21 +0100 From: Thehelpfulone &lt;thehelpfulonewiki(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Sister Projects Committee Message-ID: &lt;CADcRDcZS=7gh=opwZmBx3-7Dv1yksMPE629Nm8it4UH2+hjCkQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, The Sister Projects Committee is now a more formal committee, and as such, there's a list of things to do at < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sister_Projects_Committee#Task_list>gt;. The plan is to discuss all the topics on the talk page and this mailing list when we are looking for wider community input. If you are interested in joining the committee or helping out, please have a look at the talk page, < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sister_Projects_Committee>gt;, where I've split up each topic area into a different section so that discussions can take place. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on this mailing list or on the talk page. :-) -- Thehelpfulone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone English Wikipedia Administrator ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:54:14 +0100 From: Richard Symonds &lt;richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk&gt; To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] BBC Open Content Message-ID: &lt;4F8457A6.8060707(a)wikimedia.org.uk&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Looks like the BBC are now starting to use goodly amounts of open content. One that's caught my eye is a piece on the seige of Sarajevo, part of which is CC-BY-SA licenced, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17617775. Richard Symonds Office& Development Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0992 -- Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Charitable Company Registered in England and Wales, No: 6741827. Charity No:1144513 Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. Wikimedia UK is the local chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 97, Issue 30 *******************************************