Nominally, the WMF is going to be the next Wikimedia organisation to do a governance
review, as per:
On 11 Jul 2018, at 02:36, Balázs Viczián
<balazs.viczian(a)wikimedia.hu> wrote:
This report is pretty useful in terms of comparing my chapter's policies to
this. Probably some fine tuning will follow. Thank you for sharing!
Note the pattern: UK, Germany, France, all 'big' chapters. My guess is that
the next one will very likely to be another 'large' chapter (100+ members,
multiple employees, many paralel projects etc)
As the report says very few has at least some experience in running
organizations (true worldwide) so no suprise such events happen every few
years, not to say those that stay 'local'.
Just having 50-100-150k edits is not enough to be a 'boss'
Would love to see people management skills workshops, and organizational
skills (logistics) workshops...but I attend an event only every 2-3 years
(or less), so this is just an almost silent suggestion :)
Balazs
2018. júl. 10. 7:44 ezt írta ("Alphos OGame" <alphos.ogame(a)gmail.com>)m>):
Forgive my (usual ?) bluntness, but I don't think congratulations are in
order for undertaking the governance review ;-)
As a member and unwilling observer, I can tell you it was dearly needed, be
it by internal or external auditors, and mandated by the WMF.
However, as a long time member of the community and of Wikimedia France, I
do salute the effort of publishing the results of the review, as the
previous board of directors probably wouldn't have wanted to publish
anything critical of their method of governance ; and the review covers
both old and more recent times.
That indeed deserves credit, so thank you Nadine !
@ Cornelius : smart thinking on your part, collecting them in one place. I
hope there won't be any more crisis requiring a governance review in one of
our chapters, but in any case it will be interesting for all chapters to
know what to avoid in the future, and where to look for it, so thank you as
well.
Roger / Alphos
Le 9 juil. 2018 à 13:44, Chris Keating
<chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> a
écrit :
Congratulations to Wikimedia France for undertaking this review and
publishing the results.
I believe all of the 3 governance reviews are important reading for
anyone involved with the WMF or any of the affiliates, and all have
important lessons for the movement. It's interesting to note that this
is the first one that touches on the WMF-affiliate relationship in
much detail.
Also - while so far governance reviews have only happened as a result
of a crisis, this doesn't have to be the case! I would urge Wikimedia
affiliates to take external advice on their governance, the
suggestions offered by governance experts who know the laws, norms and
cutlure in which you operate will be very helpful for you.
Chris
(who was Chair of Wikimedia UK at the point we had a governance review...)
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 10:43 PM Nadine Le Lirzin <nlelirzin(a)wikimedia.fr>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As announced last month on this list[1], the Governance Assessment Report
> by external auditors "Associés en gouvernance" has been published, and we
> want to share it with you.
>
> The auditors did a great work, first in their rather good understanding
of
> our movement complexity, and then in the
numerous improvement suggestions
> they delivered.
>
> The consultation of our members – to fully associate them to the
rebuilding
> – is still in progress. Main changes will be
submitted to a vote at next
> General Assembly, by the end of the year.
>
> The document has been translated in English and is now available on
> Commons[2].
>
> May these suggestions be useful not only for Wikimédia France, but also
for
> any other chapter or affiliate that would be
in need of governance advice
> or ideas.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nadine Le Lirzin
> *Wikimedia France Board Secretary*
>
>
> [1]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2018- June/090413.html
Governance_Assessment_Report_-_2018.pdf
>
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