~50k means 50.000 Euros or 500.000 Euros?
The value is important because cutting 20% or 30% in biggest budget means
to justify that to the stakeholders.
The model that FDC is bringing to the chapters is more complex than
previously because the chapters have to find external funds.
This means that the group of stakeholders has to be enlarged (a lot).
I would give you the definition of stakeholders from ITIL: "those
individuals or groups that have an interest in an organization, service or
project and are potentially interested or engaged in the activities,
resources, targets or deliverables".
WMF is one stakeholders.
The submitters of a project are stakeholders, the members of the
associations are stakeholders, the editor of Wikimedia projects are
stakeholders and so on.
In this case the FDC cannot evaluate the strategy of a chapter because WMF
is *one of the stakeholders*.
And WMF cannot say that a chapter has not a strategy because a decision
like this generates as consequence a complete review of the strategy in
order to attract stakeholders.
Basically if WMF is asking to find external funds to reduce the risk, the
consequence is that WMF is also declaring to would be a stakeholder with
less importance and less impact in the decision of the strategy of the
chapter.
This is not my personal opinion, it's an evident consequence of biggest
budget.
regards
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl>
wrote:
Hi Balazs,
I'm quite puzzled and wondering what are you basing your opinion of the FDC
members' zero initial experience. I can speak only for myself, but I was an
ED of an NGO for 6 years (and successfully applied for grants and ran a
~50k annual budget), and I've been on the funds dissemination board for
best,
dariusz "pundit"
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Balázs Viczián <
balazs.viczian(a)wikimedia.hu> wrote:
In regards to the original problem brought up by
Gerard, FDC is more
or less on its maximum I think.
Its members never did such (or similar) job(s) before FDC (the closest
would be credit checks, but that is like and IEG grant review - it is
pretty far from such a comprehensive grant - technically a
full "business plan" - review)
Despite the little to zero initial experience of its members,
all-volunteer setup and the ever changing circumstances (global goals,
focus points, etc.) and how in general awful it sounds if you say it
out lout that an all-amateur (in the good sense) and inexperienced
group of people are handling
out USD 6 million every year in their free time and for free, it works
pretty well.
Not perfect but you can not demand or expect perfection from such a
setup.
That is why there is a whole process now to correct the mistakes that
arise from this "non-professional system", including a dedicated
ombudsperson for the case(s).
I think this is fair enough, the quality of the reviews are visibly
improving from year to year and for the first time there is a real
possibility to fix the mistakes and errors made, like the
"incoherentness" of reviews.
Things from this point could be better only through radical changes to
the system imo.
Balazs
2014-11-25 9:41 GMT, Ilario Valdelli <valdelli(a)gmail.com>om>:
In my opinion the work of the FDC cannot be
limited to compare three
years,
to evaluate three budgets and to evaluate three
impacts.
I would say that it's *out of context*.
I have had this feeling when I have read that the FDC consider that
Amical
is the best example to follow.
How "to follow"? Amical operates in a different context than other
chapters. The question that a good example can be *cloned* is
surrealistic.
>
> Ok, nothing to say but:
> a) Amical operates in small community where the language is a strong
glue
> within the community
> b) Amical has a strong inter-relation Wikimedia projects = organization
> c) Amical has no big internal conflicts generated by external or
internal
> questions (may be the opposite)
> d) the territory where Amical operates is relatively small
>
> A good example to compare Amical is with Wikimedia Israel.
>
> I would not speak in the specific case of WM DE but I suggest to look
in
> the history of the German projects and in
the German chapter and to
check
> how many external decisions have had an
impact in the German community
to
generate
a bias. I don't think that these decisions have been a good
solution to improve the community participation to the projects.
What I see is that the numbers of editors is decreasing a lot in the
biggest projects.
It may be caused by a wrong strategy where is privileged the diversity
and
> the Global South but without paying attention that the historical
> communities and to the "usual" editors. May be I am wrong but there are
> more online projects becoming attractive for the "potential" editors
and
> the change of the target is not producing a
real impact.
>
> So it's not a question of comparison of three budget.
>
> If the problem is critical the solution to limit the decreasing is not
> beneficial.
>
> regards
>
>
> Il 24/Nov/2014 19:14 "Sydney Poore" <sydney.poore(a)gmail.com> ha
scritto:
> Hi Patrik,
>
>
> During this round of the FDC evaluating the requests, the majority of
the
>> organizations that we were looking at had submitted requests to the
FDC
> for
> the past 3 years. While we have seen improvement around strategic
> planning,
> budget planning and evaluation, there is still a great amount of room
for
>> improvement from everyone in the wikimedia movement (including the
WMF.)
>>
>> If you read the recommendations, FDC is primarily asking the largest
>> organizations to re-evaluate their current capacity to deliver impact
to
> the
movement in line with the funds that they are using. In many
instances
>> it involves looking at the organizations overall capacity to develop
and
>
execute a strategic plan. Because the FDC is making recommendations
about
> unrestricted funds, rather than focusing on a
specific project or
program,
> often the reductions in funds is linked to
concerns about an
organizations
capacity
to grow (eg., hire and manage more staff, do more complicated
projects.)
Warm regards,
Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Member FDC
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Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
Pacific Standard:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
Motherboard:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
The Wikipedian:
http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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