And if I were to ask the community to make it? I would be perfectly willing
to do the same thing. This should not be relevant in Wikimedia. If a
pedophile says "We should put a picture of a naked child on every page of
Wikipedia!", we should refute his idea on its merits, not based on the fact
that he's a pedophile. I have been thinking for a long time now that ku.wp
should be moved to kmr.wp, I am just not a big fan of all of the bureaucracy
and so avoided doing it myself. Now someone else has done it, and I support
it.
So it really bothers me that you're judging a proposal based on the
(supposed) ethnicity of the person who suggested it, especially since the
proposal has always had merit and I could've easily been the proposer
myself. If an argument has no merit, then say so based on the argument. Ad
hominem is never right, and that's actually exactly what you've done here.
2011/9/16 Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, M. Williamson
<node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in
supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to
those
of a group of Turkish soldiers who attempted to
murder Kurdish women and
children. This game of nationalism and accusations is nothing new on
Wikipedia. I have been called a Russian, a Soviet, a Jew, a Kurdish
nationalist and many other things.
I was even told once that I was an official enemy of the Romanian people
and
that my name and face had been stored in a secret
Romanian government
database of enemies of the Romanian nation and that I would be targeted
for
elimination. So please, let's keep
nationality out of this. I am not
Turkish
but I am a linguist and a geek and this move
makes linguistic and
technical
sense. I am more a supporter of the aspirations
of peoples to be
independent, but I'd rather not take sides in every single geopolitical
conflict because this does not need to be tied to that. It is a simple
technical and linguistic issue with two options for a solution that
should
be chosen based on common sense, not nationalist
sentiments or loyalties,
and I have chosen my side without those unnecessary influences.
Mark, your objections would make sense if I had only said "Oh by the
way, he's Turkish." I didn't. As a matter of fact, White Cat has an
extensive history of being subject to dispute resolution, editing
restrictions, blocks etc. for disruptive editing with a Turkish
nationalist point of view. While I do understand that you may
disagree, I personally think that strongly held biases in the matter
at hand are relevant to the decision he asks the community to make.
Nathan
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