And if I were to ask the community to make it? I would be perfectly willing to do the same thing. This should not be relevant in Wikimedia. If a pedophile says "We should put a picture of a naked child on every page of Wikipedia!", we should refute his idea on its merits, not based on the fact that he's a pedophile. I have been thinking for a long time now that ku.wp should be moved to kmr.wp, I am just not a big fan of all of the bureaucracy and so avoided doing it myself. Now someone else has done it, and I support it.
So it really bothers me that you're judging a proposal based on the (supposed) ethnicity of the person who suggested it, especially since the proposal has always had merit and I could've easily been the proposer myself. If an argument has no merit, then say so based on the argument. Ad hominem is never right, and that's actually exactly what you've done here.
2011/9/16 Nathan nawrich@gmail.com
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, M. Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Let me add to this that some of the same people compared my actions, in supporting a technical move to change the ISO code of a Wikipedia, to
those
of a group of Turkish soldiers who attempted to murder Kurdish women and children. This game of nationalism and accusations is nothing new on Wikipedia. I have been called a Russian, a Soviet, a Jew, a Kurdish nationalist and many other things.
I was even told once that I was an official enemy of the Romanian people
and
that my name and face had been stored in a secret Romanian government database of enemies of the Romanian nation and that I would be targeted
for
elimination. So please, let's keep nationality out of this. I am not
Turkish
but I am a linguist and a geek and this move makes linguistic and
technical
sense. I am more a supporter of the aspirations of peoples to be independent, but I'd rather not take sides in every single geopolitical conflict because this does not need to be tied to that. It is a simple technical and linguistic issue with two options for a solution that
should
be chosen based on common sense, not nationalist sentiments or loyalties, and I have chosen my side without those unnecessary influences.
Mark, your objections would make sense if I had only said "Oh by the way, he's Turkish." I didn't. As a matter of fact, White Cat has an extensive history of being subject to dispute resolution, editing restrictions, blocks etc. for disruptive editing with a Turkish nationalist point of view. While I do understand that you may disagree, I personally think that strongly held biases in the matter at hand are relevant to the decision he asks the community to make.
Nathan
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