Hoi, What is required is that some localisation has to have happened. It does not say full localisation. At this moment it is not possible to localise in the first place. The notion that a policy should be changed because there is a current stumbling block is silly.
Get a friendly developer to create some message files. Be part of the solution.
Thanks, GerardM
On 3/27/07, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
Well, yes, but the policy is written partly by you.
You speak about the policy as if it's written in stone and as if criticism of it is illogical because it cannot or will not ever be changed.
Please read the last 10 messages on this thread. The consensus so far _in this thread_ seems to be that it is illogical to require full translation of MediaWiki messages before allowing a new Wikipedia to be created.
Then please read the title of this thread, and note that it was posted by Arbeo, who is a very respectable person.
Mark
On 27/03/07, GerardM gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The new policy does not deal with the mess that exists as a consequence
of
not having this policy in the past. Mark's argument is based on things
that
happened before the policy came into effect.
Solving the mess is what we do want to address .. so far there have been
two
languages provided with their initial messages in MediaWiki... We are working on a solution for all issues but it does take a lot of work. For
one
of the pieces of the puzzle we have been told to wait until Brion has
rolled
out single login. We have explicitly asked for some priority because
this is
an important issue to us. I have had information from Brion and from
within
the board of trustees that our issues do not have priority.
As it does not have priority for the WMF, we are in a state of limbo
with
many of these issues. New languages do not have any priority. I would
like
to see that the support of languages in MediaWiki does have priority. Thanks, GerardM
On 3/27/07, Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com wrote:
2007/3/27, GerardM gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, The reason why they did not have translated interfaces is because
nobody
bothered to set up the message files. The accepted policy of the
language
committee requires them.
What is being questioned here is the validity of this policy. Erik
stated
that if you cannot get someone to be bothered to set up the message
files,
it is reasonable to expect you cannot setup an encyclopedia either.
Mark
now answers that it has been done a few times. So that removes one
argument.
Apparently, now the reason that it is policy is that the committee has decided it is. Which is a rather lame reason in an open organization
as
the Wikimedia foundation is (I think) hoping to be.
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