Hoi,
What is required is that some localisation has to have happened. It does not
say full localisation. At this moment it is not possible to localise in the
first place. The notion that a policy should be changed because there is a
current stumbling block is silly.
Get a friendly developer to create some message files. Be part of the
solution.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 3/27/07, Mark Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well, yes, but the policy is written partly by you.
You speak about the policy as if it's written in stone and as if
criticism of it is illogical because it cannot or will not ever be
changed.
Please read the last 10 messages on this thread. The consensus so far
_in this thread_ seems to be that it is illogical to require full
translation of MediaWiki messages before allowing a new Wikipedia to
be created.
Then please read the title of this thread, and note that it was posted
by Arbeo, who is a very respectable person.
Mark
On 27/03/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
The new policy does not deal with the mess that exists as a consequence
of
not having this policy in the past. Mark's
argument is based on things
that
happened before the policy came into effect.
Solving the mess is what we do want to address .. so far there have been
two
languages provided with their initial messages in
MediaWiki... We are
working on a solution for all issues but it does take a lot of work. For
one
of the pieces of the puzzle we have been told to
wait until Brion has
rolled
out single login. We have explicitly asked for
some priority because
this is
an important issue to us. I have had information
from Brion and from
within
the board of trustees that our issues do not have
priority.
As it does not have priority for the WMF, we are in a state of limbo
with
many of these issues. New languages do not have
any priority. I would
like
to see that the support of languages in MediaWiki
does have priority.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 3/27/07, Andre Engels <andreengels(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2007/3/27, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>om>:
> >
> > Hoi,
> > The reason why they did not have translated interfaces is because
nobody
> > bothered to set up the message files.
The accepted policy of the
> language
> > committee requires them.
>
>
> What is being questioned here is the validity of this policy. Erik
stated
> that if you cannot get someone to be
bothered to set up the message
files,
> it is reasonable to expect you cannot setup
an encyclopedia either.
Mark
> now
> answers that it has been done a few times. So that removes one
argument.
> Apparently, now the reason that it is policy
is that the committee has
> decided it is. Which is a rather lame reason in an open organization
as
the
Wikimedia foundation is (I think) hoping to be.
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