2017-03-20 11:04 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>:
Hi Pine,
it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change,
which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on
our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members
that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are
having a hard time to get useful input from the community.
Strictly for technical communication, there is
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_Guidance which
I have not seen mentioned here. When I last read it in detail, there
were some sound ideas expressed there. Since then, the quantity of
text has grown, but I see this is still a draft, so presumably one
could still influence the outcome by commenting in the talk pages of
the sections.
One of the ideas I have mentioned there, in the context of changes
which require community involvement was to encourage communities to
subscribe their village pump to the tech news. Tech news come on a
predictable schedule and include 95% of the important changes (with
the percentage set to increase after the Guidance is approved).
Strainu
There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that:
- using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of the
community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list, the
wikitech mailing list etc).
- Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and
everything. Gives you lots of comments.
- Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives
you a broad reach over languages, but within those languages still reaches
a specific part of the community.
Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective.
And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing'
everyone.
So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of
ideas, experiences and provide input?
Best
Lodewijk
PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th
time, it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :)
2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com>om>:
Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here
from the other thread. (:
I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations and
surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like that in
the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a consultation or survey
about consultations or surveys, which I know sounds ironic but may be
helpful in figuring out how much is too much or too little, timing,
locations, etc.
Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email, social
media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so -- or perhaps
because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown. I imagine that
holds true for both staff and community members, and I'd welcome some
initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone will have some ideas
that they can submit to IdeaLab.
Pine
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