That's exactly what Ziko is talking about:
Hierarchy really 'reverts' users into real people, but moreover - it gives
them power to command the resources (people and money are just resources for
many of 'commanders'), and politics - how to gain ASAP and then to keep
...ALAP (as long as possible) the commandment position (through the
elections etc.).
...and that 'ordinary' people suffer of proper knowledge about power,
(democratic) procedures etc. (see the Ziko' explanation), but what is worse
- organisation suffers even more (much more).
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:47 PM, attolippip <attolippip(a)gmail.com> wrote:
yep. i strongly agree
'an understanding of some basic concepts and ideas' is really important, i
believe
but what-makes-wikiworld-go just doesn't seem to work within a 'formal'
organization
i wonder if a 'visible' hierarchy 'reverts' users into ordinary
people...
ziko, thank you for sharing this!
best regards,
antanana
2013/8/20 Pavlo Shevelo <pavlo.shevelo(a)gmail.com>
Hello Ziko,
I like your diary very much and I just love your point regarding
"fundamental
lack of political education among the activists".
Regards,
Pavlo
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Ziko van Dijk <vandijk(a)wmnederland.nl
wrote:
Dear friends of free knowledge,
Over the past days I have been approached by many of you with kind
remarks
> on the experimental WCA year; actually, I am fine and looking forward
to
finish
some work discussed on in Hong Kong. (Let yourself be surprised.
:-)
) Thank you, and see you again soon in Wikimedia
country.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ziko/Hong_Kong_diary
Kind regards
Ziko
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voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland
Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland
Postbus 167
3500 AD Utrecht
http://wikimedia.nl
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