I generally agree with Erik on this. Editors added their project on meta
(or more generally, on one of wikimedia projects), and it should stay
on meta.
As far as I know, Wikicities is not a wikimedia project, and I see no
reason why we would move there information which was given here. At
least no more reason to move it there rather than anywhere else.
Meta is meant precisely to receive such information and proposal. I
object to information be disseminated on several wikis, in particular on
projects which are not ours.
Of course, that does not mean the content of the page can't be copied on
wikicities, and become useful over there. But it should stay on meta,
because it is one of the goal of meta to welcome brainstorming.
This said, the meta page needs clean up so that we can distinguish
between projects which just do not fit our goals, and others potentially
interesting later on.
We could welcome rough polls for each project, and do a short meeting to
decide which ones to move to an archive.
Anthere
Erik Moeller a écrit:
Elisabeth-
Since many people complained to me about Meta
being an unusable
labyrinth, I'd like to do a little bit of cleanup and wondered if we
could just move this list to wikicities (jimbo's pet project where
people can set up wikis on their own) and direct new entries on meta of
the type "oh there is no wiki on ... what about ...?" to wikicities:
http://www.wikicities.com/index.php/Proposed_wikis
No, please don't do that. While I like Wikicities, I want Wikimedia itself
to be and remain at the forefront of exploring new and innovative uses of
wikis. Discussion is a large part of that. I agree that many of the
proposals will not have a future as separate projects, but for most of the
useful ones, I see potential for integration into existing ones. Instead
of encouraging separate projects, we should systematically explore how to
integrate good ideas into the Wikimedia framework. What cannot happen
today may very well happen tomorrow.
NPOV also dictates that we do not give preference to any outside wiki
hosting company. Why direct the Wikimedia community to
wikicities.com and
not myoo.de or
wikidev.net, both of which are run by MediaWiki developers?
I think a general note about wiki hosting on the talk page is more
appropriate.
In short, I strongly oppose moving this talk page out of Meta, and even
more strongly to move it to a specific hosting company.
Regards,
Erik