Betawiki IS a real MediaWiki wiki so it gives you
context. I fail to see
your point.
The MediaWiki messages pop up from within the software.. The annotations
help understand the context. Without these annotations localisation is
indeed much more difficult and it is this what is offered in Betawiki only.
Once the localisation is done, the message do become available everywhere,
another advantage that you have nowhere else..
As all other projects, the localisation at Betawiki is done by well meaning
volunteers. We are happy with the work that is done but this does not imply
that it is as good as we would like to have it. To illustrate this point
look at the "group statistics" and you will notice how much work still needs
to be done for a first time. You will notice how much work needs to be done
for Japanese... When you state that the quality is not good enough for
Japanese, I will be the last to deny this. I will however be among the
people that will implore you to do the wiki thing and fix it.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
When you localise in Betawiki, you are provided with messages in English
that provide you the context of the message. When you localise outside
Betawiki such help is not available. I would argue that you should
localise
in Betawiki because it helps you with the
context. When these messages
are
missing, it is only because nobody bothered to
add them.
Sorry disagree. When I am on Betawiki, I see only English MediaWiki
files, not knowing where I will find it on a real wiki. It doesn't
give us context.
When you have suggestions to make Betawiki even better, we do welcome
them.
What we are looking for is more people that contribute to the
localisation
process, certainly for a big language like
Japanese it should be possible
not only to do the initial localisation but also to do the proof reading
and
improve the available localisations.
One question, when you found the localisation lacking, you do know how
this
can be remedied, don't you !?!
Why? I see only messages without knowing which MediaWiki file contains
that. Why do you think I know something?
Thanks,
GerardM
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm a bit concerned Japanese low (lowest ever since 2004) and gave a
> look to Japanese setting (note: my home wiki is meta and I use English
> settings for convenience in communications with the other meta
> regular).
>
> I let some Eleccom members the problems I found, but one of them are
> noted worthy publicly, for warning other language setting problem. So
> sorry for duplications, if any.
>
> Japanese setting says "the Election 2008 is over" and has no
> instruction of voting method. No mention people are expected to rank
> candidates. I am amazed three people had voted even in this
> circumstance...
>
> If you are good at your language and English, please check Boardvote:*
> to see they are rightly translated.
>
> (That is partly why I am no big fan of betawiki way: translation out
> of context is sometimes disastrous confusing .. like the above).
>
> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Yes, they are.
> >
> > 2008/6/7 Joe Szilagyi <szilagyi(a)gmail.com>om>:
> >
> >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml@
gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Joe Szilagyi
<szilagyi(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > > What qualifies a vote to be struck or discounted?
> >> > >
> >> > > And, how are the users affected thus notified? Are they told why
> their
> >> > vote
> >> > > was struck? If not on either of these two, why?
> >> >
> >> > Mark responded to this yesterday:
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I noticed that afterwards, sorry. I'm still curious if for some other
> >> reason, if votes are struck, if the person whose vote is struck is to
be
> >> notified?
> >>
> >> - Joe
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