That is comparing it with wrong examples that are not relevant here.
On Wikipedia we have the guideline that articles an categories should be
added to Wikidata, that originates back to the phase that only manual
interwikis existed.
And we have already received complaints why users do not get a message
after they created a category/article to add it to Wikidata.
Further I propose this only for (logged in) users, and perhaps further
settings are possible.
At the moment the largest workload is coming from articles that are not
added to Wikidata. Some users produce five articles a day, all not added to
Wikidata, while the articles are fine. In two days we have about 100 new
articles on nl-wiki, all not added to Wikidata. This is just one wiki, and
a huge workload to get them added properly.
Romaine
2015-10-29 20:46 GMT+01:00 Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com>om>:
Whatever happened to "Wikipedia, the encyclopedia
anyone can edit"?
This is adding a layer of complexity and expectation that I don't really
feel comfortable with. We don't expect people to add images to Commons
when they write an article. We don't expect people to include definitions
in Wiktionary when they are using a word. We don't expect people to be
adding material to Wikisource or add quotes to Wikiquote. For that matter,
we don't expect people to write Wikipedia articles about what they review
on wikisource, or about images they add to Commons, or quotes they add to
Wikiquote. So why would we set up any kind of expectation that people
would add "data" to Wikidata?
I also am concerned that people will add a new article that, bluntly put,
isn't going to last more than an hour...get these messages, and add junk
data to Wikidata. Wikidatians are working hard to add referencing and
improve what is there already, but it's a huge labour and we shouldn't be
adding to their mountain of work unnecessarily.
Risker/Anne
On 29 October 2015 at 14:37, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I think it is time for the next step in the Wikidata development: a
better
integration in Wikipedia and her sisterprojects.
Every day thousands of articles are created, and many of those are not
added to Wikidata, even while often an item about this subject exists.
Users forget to add a newly created article to Wikidata as there is no
stimulus at all. The next step in Wikidata development is that after the
creation of an article, users get a message (pop-up, or screen, etc) in
what they are asked to add the article/category to Wikidata. In the first
stage this can be just a pop-up with a message. But it would be better if
this can be a message + some help to do this, so that users can stay in
Wikipedia (or another project), without having to go to Wikidata.
A further step that can be developed after is the suggestion of
properties
(if missing), like instance of, and based on this
entry further
properties.
This will make sure that there is a better integration of Wikipedia and
her
sister projects with Wikidata through this
workflow.
For this I created a Phabricator task at:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117070
Thanks!
Romaine
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