Hi everyone,
Thanks for surfacing this discussion. I want to share some broader context from the WMF side as the person who manages our partnership with Google https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_Wikimedia_Foundation_and_Google_Partnership. Hopefully it will provide clarity on how we do (and do not) work with them.
I've written more info specific to this situation below, but the tl;dr is that our partnership does not aim to make Wikipedia or other Wikimedia content the top search result on Google's products - that decision is wholly made by Google. The aim of our partnership is to work with Google to identify and implement ways they can better support Wikimedia communities, increase content creation, and help connect people with knowledge globally.
As mentioned previously in this thread https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607, this particular situation seemingly needs to be resolved on our platform, not on Google's. That said, we (WMF's Partnerships team) have explained the importance of this issue to Google, and their Indexing team is going to do some analysis to provide us with any insights they are allowed to share about what the specific issues may be. We've surfaced this not just with regards to Wikisource, but with past scenarios where Wikimedians have flagged similar issues with some language Wikipedia projects.
WMF does not decide what Google indexes or where Wikimedia content ranks in Google Search, nor does Google disclose specific details about how the results are chosen beyond what is publicly available https://developers.google.com/search?card=developer. This is to maintain neutrality and not privilege any partners or sites over others.
We will continue working with Google to put together as much information as possible to inform the path forward, while also underscoring the importance of Wikisource and its visibility. We also encourage the Sister Projects Taskforce https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force to continue flagging this and other issues where we can find ways to collaborate in our goal of supporting all of the Wikimedia projects.
Feel free to reach out to me or partnerships@wikimedia.org if you have questions about any of this.
Nicholas Perry
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 16:09:58 +0200 From: Yaroslav Blanter ymbalt@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out! To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <CAM-kgDO0ZjJ0KBaYkppUzSGF= t81OSGbOrpMRWLppeDW8SjQMg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d65f0a0601dd1a47"
Indeed I believe my last break of an edit streak was when I was on a plane / connection without wifi for more than 24h (going from Europe to Japan). I normally edit every day since I have joined (15-ish years now), but I am not so much addicted to edit-count so that I would plan my travel taking this into account or pay for the internet during the flight when I do not need it otherwise. Still, nice to have these streaks having been acknowledged sometimes.
Best Yaroslav
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:19 PM Peter Southwood < peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:
This is a bit like edit counts, in that it indicates nothing about the value of the edits. In a way it is impressive that someone is so
dedicated,
but all the guy at the top of the list needs to do to crash and burn is a couple of days of inability to edit for reasons out of their control, so some luck is involved.
Cheers,
Peter
*From:* Yaroslav Blanter [mailto:ymbalt@gmail.com] *Sent:* 28 July 2023 18:56 *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out!
Thanks, interesting, I am apparently a human #19 in the list.
Best
Yaroslav
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:43 PM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
Bon dia / Hi,
Is there any available tool to precisely count how many days in a row a Wikimedian from a specifif project has been editing? The source that is linked in the Diffs page (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Longest_active_user...
only within the English Wikipedia…
Has anyone checked that there is no other user in the rest of the other projects (hundreds of them) with a similar or better streak, so
that
the sentence “the Wikimedian with the longest editing streak” is fully accurate regarding both language and Wikimedia project?
Gràcies! / Thank you!
Xavier Dengra
El dv, 28 jul., 2023 a 17:15, Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska < nszafran@wikimedia.org> va escriure:
*Read in عربي, bahasa Indonesia, français, Deutsch, español, Kiswahili, and Polish **on Diff <
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-mee...
.
Johnny Au https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnny_Auhas been editing every single day since November 11, 2007, which makes him the Wikimedian with the longest editing streak. That's more than 15 years or - more precisely - 5733 days of continuous editing!
Each day Johnny checks his extensive watchlist, which includes articles related to his beloved hometown Toronto. From local sports teams and art galleries, to Toronto transit system – Johnny is passionate about all things Toronto-related, and carefully watches over Wikipedia articles
about
it. He specializes in minor, maintenance edits: correcting spelling and language, reverting vandalisms, adding images and correcting mistakes.
The daily habit of editing and the pure love for Wikipedia, and passion for free knowledge, is what keeps him going. When asked about advice to share with other editors, he says: *Never give up. Fight the good fight. We must fight against misinformation and disinformation.*
Learn more about Johnny, his work (and this one time when his editing streak almost broke!) on Diff <
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-mee...
or on Meta <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au , as we WikiCelebrate https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebratehis incredible dedication to free knowledge. You can also leave some kind
words
for Johnny on the meta page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au and congratulate him on his amazing achievement!
Johnny is one of the great people that have contributed so much to bringing us to where we are today, and continue to do so. Each month we WikiCelebrate a different Wikimedian, acknowledging the amazing
community,
the pillars of our movement. We warmly invite you to write about the
people
celebrated each month. If you know them, share some wiki love. If there’s an outstanding Wikimedian that you think should be celebrated, recommend them https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/WikiCelebrate.
Happy celebrating!
Natalia and Mehrdad
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