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   1. Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing streak? Find out!
      (Yaroslav Blanter)
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      (Gnangarra)
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      (Gnangarra)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 16:09:58 +0200
From: Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing
        streak?  Find out!
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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Indeed I believe my last break of an edit streak was when I was on a plane
/ connection without wifi for more than 24h (going from Europe to Japan). I
normally edit every day since I have joined (15-ish years now), but I am
not so much addicted to edit-count so that I would plan my travel taking
this into account or pay for the internet during the flight when I do not
need it otherwise. Still, nice to have these streaks having been
acknowledged sometimes.

Best
Yaroslav

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:19 PM Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> This is a bit like edit counts, in that it indicates nothing about the
> value of the edits. In a way it is impressive that someone is so dedicated,
> but all the guy at the top of the list needs to do to crash and burn is a
> couple of days of inability to edit for reasons out of their control, so
> some luck is involved.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> *From:* Yaroslav Blanter [mailto:ymbalt@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 28 July 2023 18:56
> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing
> streak? Find out!
>
>
>
> Thanks, interesting, I am apparently a human #19 in the list.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Yaroslav
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:43 PM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Bon dia / Hi,
>
>
>
> Is there any available tool to precisely count how many days in a row a
> Wikimedian from a specifif project has been editing? The source that is
> linked in the Diffs page (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Longest_active_user_editing_streaks)is
> only within the English Wikipedia…
>
>
>
> Has anyone checked that there is no other user in the rest of the
> other projects (hundreds of them) with a similar or better streak, so that
> the sentence “the Wikimedian with the longest editing streak” is fully
> accurate regarding both language and Wikimedia project?
>
>
>
> Gràcies! / Thank you!
>
>
>
> Xavier Dengra
>
>
>
> El dv, 28 jul., 2023 a 17:15, Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska <
> nszafran@wikimedia.org> va escriure:
>
> *Read in عربي, bahasa Indonesia, français, Deutsch, español, Kiswahili,
> and Polish **on Diff
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-meet-the-editor-who-has-been-editing-each-day-for-15-years/>.
> *
>
>
>
> Johnny Au <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnny_Au>has been editing
> every single day since November 11, 2007, which makes him the Wikimedian
> with the longest editing streak. That's more than 15 years or - more
> precisely - 5733 days of continuous editing!
>
>
> Each day Johnny checks his extensive watchlist, which includes articles
> related to his beloved hometown Toronto. From local sports teams and art
> galleries, to Toronto transit system – Johnny is passionate about all
> things Toronto-related, and carefully watches over Wikipedia articles about
> it. He specializes in minor, maintenance edits: correcting spelling and
> language, reverting vandalisms, adding images and correcting mistakes.
>
>
>
> The daily habit of editing and the pure love for Wikipedia, and passion
> for free knowledge, is what keeps him going. When asked about advice to
> share with other editors, he says: *Never give up. Fight the good fight.
> We must fight against misinformation and disinformation.*
>
>
>
> Learn more about Johnny, his work (and this one time when his editing
> streak almost broke!) on Diff
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-meet-the-editor-who-has-been-editing-each-day-for-15-years/>or
> on Meta
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au>,
> as we WikiCelebrate
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate>his
> incredible dedication to free knowledge. You can also leave some kind words
> for Johnny on the meta page
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au>
> and congratulate him on his amazing achievement!
>
>
>
> Johnny is one of the great people that have contributed so much to
> bringing us to where we are today, and continue to do so. Each month we
> WikiCelebrate a different Wikimedian, acknowledging the amazing community,
> the pillars of our movement. We warmly invite you to write about the people
> celebrated each month. If you know them, share some wiki love. If there’s
> an outstanding Wikimedian that you think should be celebrated, recommend
> them <https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/WikiCelebrate>.
>
>
>
> Happy celebrating!
>
> Natalia and Mehrdad
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska* (she/her)
> Senior Global Movement Communications Specialist (European Region)
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:36:35 +0800
From: Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing
        streak?  Find out!
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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I think sometimes we do get too wrapped up in the numbers because we can
count them, and compare them, as a measure this is ever so slightly better
than edit counts. Let's be honest, anyone who can survive multiple weeks on
en.wp probably deserves a medal depending on the topics they haunt.

Looking at my own I see some streaks are interrupted by swapping between
projects and back again. Then as others mentioned before interruptions by
travel a lot of which has been to support, promote, encourage newcomers, or
do affiliate related work that isn't marked in machine readable boxes.  I
would say there are many people who have similar commitments, the fact they
dont edit everyday does devalue their effort either.

Lets enjoy the novelty value, let's value the effort it takes to have a
long streak while remembering it's taken a lot of dedicated people over 20
odd years to get to where we are, and the movement will need many more
dedicated people well into the future.

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 22:11, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Indeed I believe my last break of an edit streak was when I was on a plane
> / connection without wifi for more than 24h (going from Europe to Japan). I
> normally edit every day since I have joined (15-ish years now), but I am
> not so much addicted to edit-count so that I would plan my travel taking
> this into account or pay for the internet during the flight when I do not
> need it otherwise. Still, nice to have these streaks having been
> acknowledged sometimes.
>
> Best
> Yaroslav
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:19 PM Peter Southwood <
> peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
>> This is a bit like edit counts, in that it indicates nothing about the
>> value of the edits. In a way it is impressive that someone is so dedicated,
>> but all the guy at the top of the list needs to do to crash and burn is a
>> couple of days of inability to edit for reasons out of their control, so
>> some luck is involved.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Yaroslav Blanter [mailto:ymbalt@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 28 July 2023 18:56
>> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
>> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing
>> streak? Find out!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, interesting, I am apparently a human #19 in the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Yaroslav
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:43 PM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l <
>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>> Bon dia / Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there any available tool to precisely count how many days in a row a
>> Wikimedian from a specifif project has been editing? The source that is
>> linked in the Diffs page (
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Longest_active_user_editing_streaks)is
>> only within the English Wikipedia…
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone checked that there is no other user in the rest of the
>> other projects (hundreds of them) with a similar or better streak, so that
>> the sentence “the Wikimedian with the longest editing streak” is fully
>> accurate regarding both language and Wikimedia project?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gràcies! / Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>> Xavier Dengra
>>
>>
>>
>> El dv, 28 jul., 2023 a 17:15, Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska <
>> nszafran@wikimedia.org> va escriure:
>>
>> *Read in عربي, bahasa Indonesia, français, Deutsch, español, Kiswahili,
>> and Polish **on Diff
>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-meet-the-editor-who-has-been-editing-each-day-for-15-years/>.
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnny Au <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnny_Au>has been editing
>> every single day since November 11, 2007, which makes him the Wikimedian
>> with the longest editing streak. That's more than 15 years or - more
>> precisely - 5733 days of continuous editing!
>>
>>
>> Each day Johnny checks his extensive watchlist, which includes articles
>> related to his beloved hometown Toronto. From local sports teams and art
>> galleries, to Toronto transit system – Johnny is passionate about all
>> things Toronto-related, and carefully watches over Wikipedia articles about
>> it. He specializes in minor, maintenance edits: correcting spelling and
>> language, reverting vandalisms, adding images and correcting mistakes.
>>
>>
>>
>> The daily habit of editing and the pure love for Wikipedia, and passion
>> for free knowledge, is what keeps him going. When asked about advice to
>> share with other editors, he says: *Never give up. Fight the good fight.
>> We must fight against misinformation and disinformation.*
>>
>>
>>
>> Learn more about Johnny, his work (and this one time when his editing
>> streak almost broke!) on Diff
>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-meet-the-editor-who-has-been-editing-each-day-for-15-years/>or
>> on Meta
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au>,
>> as we WikiCelebrate
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate>his
>> incredible dedication to free knowledge. You can also leave some kind words
>> for Johnny on the meta page
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au>
>> and congratulate him on his amazing achievement!
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnny is one of the great people that have contributed so much to
>> bringing us to where we are today, and continue to do so. Each month we
>> WikiCelebrate a different Wikimedian, acknowledging the amazing community,
>> the pillars of our movement. We warmly invite you to write about the people
>> celebrated each month. If you know them, share some wiki love. If there’s
>> an outstanding Wikimedian that you think should be celebrated, recommend
>> them <https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/WikiCelebrate>.
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy celebrating!
>>
>> Natalia and Mehrdad
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska* (she/her)
>> Senior Global Movement Communications Specialist (European Region)
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 22:38:35 +0800
From: Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing
        streak?  Find out!
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oh I need an edit button

the fact they dont edit everyday does devalue their effort either.


should say "the fact they dont edit everyday* doesnt *devalue their effort
either."

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 22:36, Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think sometimes we do get too wrapped up in the numbers because we can
> count them, and compare them, as a measure this is ever so slightly better
> than edit counts. Let's be honest, anyone who can survive multiple weeks on
> en.wp probably deserves a medal depending on the topics they haunt.
>
> Looking at my own I see some streaks are interrupted by swapping between
> projects and back again. Then as others mentioned before interruptions by
> travel a lot of which has been to support, promote, encourage newcomers, or
> do affiliate related work that isn't marked in machine readable boxes.  I
> would say there are many people who have similar commitments, the fact they
> dont edit everyday does devalue their effort either.
>
> Lets enjoy the novelty value, let's value the effort it takes to have a
> long streak while remembering it's taken a lot of dedicated people over 20
> odd years to get to where we are, and the movement will need many more
> dedicated people well into the future.
>
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 22:11, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Indeed I believe my last break of an edit streak was when I was on a
>> plane / connection without wifi for more than 24h (going from Europe to
>> Japan). I normally edit every day since I have joined (15-ish years now),
>> but I am not so much addicted to edit-count so that I would plan my travel
>> taking this into account or pay for the internet during the flight when I
>> do not need it otherwise. Still, nice to have these streaks having been
>> acknowledged sometimes.
>>
>> Best
>> Yaroslav
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:19 PM Peter Southwood <
>> peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a bit like edit counts, in that it indicates nothing about the
>>> value of the edits. In a way it is impressive that someone is so dedicated,
>>> but all the guy at the top of the list needs to do to crash and burn is a
>>> couple of days of inability to edit for reasons out of their control, so
>>> some luck is involved.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Yaroslav Blanter [mailto:ymbalt@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* 28 July 2023 18:56
>>> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
>>> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Who is the editor with the longest editing
>>> streak? Find out!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, interesting, I am apparently a human #19 in the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Yaroslav
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:43 PM F. Xavier Dengra i Grau via Wikimedia-l <
>>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bon dia / Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any available tool to precisely count how many days in a row a
>>> Wikimedian from a specifif project has been editing? The source that is
>>> linked in the Diffs page (
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Longest_active_user_editing_streaks)is
>>> only within the English Wikipedia…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone checked that there is no other user in the rest of the
>>> other projects (hundreds of them) with a similar or better streak, so that
>>> the sentence “the Wikimedian with the longest editing streak” is fully
>>> accurate regarding both language and Wikimedia project?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gràcies! / Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Xavier Dengra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El dv, 28 jul., 2023 a 17:15, Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska <
>>> nszafran@wikimedia.org> va escriure:
>>>
>>> *Read in عربي, bahasa Indonesia, français, Deutsch, español, Kiswahili,
>>> and Polish **on Diff
>>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-meet-the-editor-who-has-been-editing-each-day-for-15-years/>.
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Johnny Au <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnny_Au>has been
>>> editing every single day since November 11, 2007, which makes him the
>>> Wikimedian with the longest editing streak. That's more than 15 years or -
>>> more precisely - 5733 days of continuous editing!
>>>
>>>
>>> Each day Johnny checks his extensive watchlist, which includes articles
>>> related to his beloved hometown Toronto. From local sports teams and art
>>> galleries, to Toronto transit system – Johnny is passionate about all
>>> things Toronto-related, and carefully watches over Wikipedia articles about
>>> it. He specializes in minor, maintenance edits: correcting spelling and
>>> language, reverting vandalisms, adding images and correcting mistakes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The daily habit of editing and the pure love for Wikipedia, and passion
>>> for free knowledge, is what keeps him going. When asked about advice to
>>> share with other editors, he says: *Never give up. Fight the good
>>> fight. We must fight against misinformation and disinformation.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Learn more about Johnny, his work (and this one time when his editing
>>> streak almost broke!) on Diff
>>> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/28/more-than-5700-days-with-wikipedia-meet-the-editor-who-has-been-editing-each-day-for-15-years/>or
>>> on Meta
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au>,
>>> as we WikiCelebrate
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate>his
>>> incredible dedication to free knowledge. You can also leave some kind words
>>> for Johnny on the meta page
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/WikiCelebrate/Johnny_Au>
>>> and congratulate him on his amazing achievement!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Johnny is one of the great people that have contributed so much to
>>> bringing us to where we are today, and continue to do so. Each month we
>>> WikiCelebrate a different Wikimedian, acknowledging the amazing community,
>>> the pillars of our movement. We warmly invite you to write about the people
>>> celebrated each month. If you know them, share some wiki love. If there’s
>>> an outstanding Wikimedian that you think should be celebrated, recommend
>>> them <https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/WikiCelebrate>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy celebrating!
>>>
>>> Natalia and Mehrdad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Natalia Szafran-Kozakowska* (she/her)
>>> Senior Global Movement Communications Specialist (European Region)
>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/NBXSBYWIC3YD7RVANCZDYFE2A43ACY5T/
>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>
>
>
> --
> Boodarwun
> Gnangarra
> 'ngany dabakarn koorliny arn boodjera dardon nlangan Nyungar koortabodjar'
>
>


--
Boodarwun
Gnangarra
'ngany dabakarn koorliny arn boodjera dardon nlangan Nyungar koortabodjar'
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 11:55:55 +0200
From: Núria Ribas Valls <perseguintlail.lusio@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New Board Amical Wikimedia
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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Hello everyone,

This is Núria Ribas-Valls (Kowalskyn
<https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Kowalskyn>), the new Chair
Board at Amical Wikimedia <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Amical_Wikimedia>.
I am writing on behalf of the whole board to greet you. Let me introduce
you to the team: Daniel Gil Solés (Dgilso
<https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Dgilso>) is the secretary, Lluís
Madurell Alemany (Lluis_tgn <https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Lluis_tgn>)
is the treasurer, and finally, the three committee positions will be Núria
Ferran-Ferrer (Nferranf
<https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A0ria:Nferranf>), Yolanda Núñez (Raspilla
Demekin <https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Raspilla_Demekin>) and Àlex
Hinojo (Kippelboy <https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Kippelboy>).



The Assembly appointed us on July 8th; here
<https://wikimedia.cat/2023/07/11/la-nova-junta-damical-wikimedia-aposta-per-reforcar-lactivisme-pel-catala/>,
you can read the news in Catalan.  In brief, our work axes will be six:
community, Catalan language, open knowledge, projects, diversity, and
international. We are also committed to adapting the Anti-harassment
Protocol to Wikimedia's Universal Code of Conduct. Regarding the
international level, we will try to learn from other Wikimedia communities
worldwide: your initiatives, projects, and so on. We are interested in
terms of content but also in community management, health care, and
attention to diversity. With all that in mind, you will hear from us soon
enough.



We are delighted to be part of the community!



Greetings,



Daniel, Lluís, Núria, Yolanda, Àlex and Núria.
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 14:30:20 +0200
From: Dušan Kreheľ <dusankrehel@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Google not indexing Wikisource for last few
        years now.
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
        <CAC5x5Q8js2RrV2JCCxcUwJgOdOhKoQMvjkvTLHwqn51wYFgJCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hm.

Page: La akonca (1888) (be.wikisource.org)
Created day with the last modification: 17:26, 7 July 2023‎ CEST
Indexed by Google: 7. júl 2023 18:21:14 UTC

Not indexed: https://be.wikisource.org/wiki/Alkahol_(1913)


2023-08-01 8:47 GMT+02:00, Bodhisattwa <bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com>:
> Hello all,
>
> Apologies for cross-posting.
>
> For those who have not noticed till now, Google is not indexing any
> Wikisource language editions for the last couple of years which practically
> means that any Wikisource contents in any languages, which are being
> created in these years, are not searchable on Google and hence largely
> remain invisible on the web.
>
> This is an extremely demotivating and frustrating situation for the
> existing Wikisource volunteers to witness, draining away all of our past
> and current efforts to bring and retain viewers, readers, GLAM partners and
> any potential new editors. We already have a very low awareness and
> visibility about Wikisource among general internet users due to lack of
> organized support in these years but the invisibility on Google search
> engine could become the last nail in our coffin, unless it is fixed soon.
>
> There is a phabricator ticket raised by Darwinius back in December 2022 -
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607.
>
> Can't this issue be put into priority by sys admins and WMF to work upon?
> Wikisource is still a sister project of Wikimedia and it needs some very
> basic care, after all.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
> (Bengali Wikisource volunteer)
>

------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 08:26:34 -0700
From: Lauren Worden <laurenworden89@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Google not indexing Wikisource for last few
        years now.
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
        <CABNSSyNd9-DsCQZ_fKWCf5_tT7DbKRg2NLe1MibHDnHXEzzQOg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Has anyone tried telling the Google Search Console to index all the
Wikisource language domains? Presumably a Foundation sysadmin would
need to add the ownership verification tokens to do so:
https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome

-LW

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 7:53 AM Dušan Kreheľ <dusankrehel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hm.
>
> Page: La akonca (1888) (be.wikisource.org)
> Created day with the last modification: 17:26, 7 July 2023‎ CEST
> Indexed by Google: 7. júl 2023 18:21:14 UTC
>
> Not indexed: https://be.wikisource.org/wiki/Alkahol_(1913)
>
>
> 2023-08-01 8:47 GMT+02:00, Bodhisattwa <bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com>:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Apologies for cross-posting.
> >
> > For those who have not noticed till now, Google is not indexing any
> > Wikisource language editions for the last couple of years which practically
> > means that any Wikisource contents in any languages, which are being
> > created in these years, are not searchable on Google and hence largely
> > remain invisible on the web.
> >
> > This is an extremely demotivating and frustrating situation for the
> > existing Wikisource volunteers to witness, draining away all of our past
> > and current efforts to bring and retain viewers, readers, GLAM partners and
> > any potential new editors. We already have a very low awareness and
> > visibility about Wikisource among general internet users due to lack of
> > organized support in these years but the invisibility on Google search
> > engine could become the last nail in our coffin, unless it is fixed soon.
> >
> > There is a phabricator ticket raised by Darwinius back in December 2022 -
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607.
> >
> > Can't this issue be put into priority by sys admins and WMF to work upon?
> > Wikisource is still a sister project of Wikimedia and it needs some very
> > basic care, after all.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bodhisattwa
> > (Bengali Wikisource volunteer)
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
> Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/4O7NJ2YXXQRNEEI5ZVKI4WVN2KLZUDTH/
> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 17:28:23 +0200
From: Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Google not indexing Wikisource for last few
        years now.
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
        <CA+ttme3hDQ9s1PHwuj8cMpOuj6YapGgfm9XBekk7C09ZKFo89A@mail.gmail.com>
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See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607#8846296 and onwards

Am Di., 1. Aug. 2023 um 17:27 Uhr schrieb Lauren Worden <
laurenworden89@gmail.com>:

> Has anyone tried telling the Google Search Console to index all the
> Wikisource language domains? Presumably a Foundation sysadmin would
> need to add the ownership verification tokens to do so:
> https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome
>
> -LW
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 7:53 AM Dušan Kreheľ <dusankrehel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hm.
> >
> > Page: La akonca (1888) (be.wikisource.org)
> > Created day with the last modification: 17:26, 7 July 2023‎ CEST
> > Indexed by Google: 7. júl 2023 18:21:14 UTC
> >
> > Not indexed: https://be.wikisource.org/wiki/Alkahol_(1913)
> >
> >
> > 2023-08-01 8:47 GMT+02:00, Bodhisattwa <bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com>:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Apologies for cross-posting.
> > >
> > > For those who have not noticed till now, Google is not indexing any
> > > Wikisource language editions for the last couple of years which
> practically
> > > means that any Wikisource contents in any languages, which are being
> > > created in these years, are not searchable on Google and hence largely
> > > remain invisible on the web.
> > >
> > > This is an extremely demotivating and frustrating situation for the
> > > existing Wikisource volunteers to witness, draining away all of our
> past
> > > and current efforts to bring and retain viewers, readers, GLAM
> partners and
> > > any potential new editors. We already have a very low awareness and
> > > visibility about Wikisource among general internet users due to lack of
> > > organized support in these years but the invisibility on Google search
> > > engine could become the last nail in our coffin, unless it is fixed
> soon.
> > >
> > > There is a phabricator ticket raised by Darwinius back in December
> 2022 -
> > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607.
> > >
> > > Can't this issue be put into priority by sys admins and WMF to work
> upon?
> > > Wikisource is still a sister project of Wikimedia and it needs some
> very
> > > basic care, after all.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bodhisattwa
> > > (Bengali Wikisource volunteer)
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines
> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
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> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/4O7NJ2YXXQRNEEI5ZVKI4WVN2KLZUDTH/
> > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 18:08:42 +0100
From: Andreas Kolbe <jayen466@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] A new Signpost issue is out ...
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>,
        Wikimedia Announce Mailing List
        <wikimediaannounce-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
        <CAHRTtW-esENcG3xKzCb6PjAcoZ91dgNM04XCjJr-mV9XwarsTA@mail.gmail.com>
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The Signpost – Volume 19, Issue 15 – 1 August 2023
------------------------------

News and notes: City officials attempt to doxx Wikipedians, Ruwiki founder
banned, WMF launches Mastodon server
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/News_and_notes

In the media: Truth, AI, bull from politicians, and climate change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/In_the_media

Disinformation report: Hot climate, hot hit, hot money, hot news hot off
the presses!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Disinformation_report

Obituary: Donald Cram, Peter McCawley, and Eagleash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Obituary

Tips and tricks: Citation tools for dummies!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Tips_and_tricks

Humour: Does Wikipedia present neutral perspectives?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Humour

In focus: *Journals cited by Wikipedia*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/In_focus

Opinion: Are global bans the last step?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Opinion

Featured content: Featured Content, 1 to 15 July
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Featured_content

Traffic report: Come on Oppie, let's go party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Traffic_report


Single-page view

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single



https://facebook.com/wikisignpost

https://twitter.com/wikisignpost

https://wikis.world/@WikiSignpost
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 17:16:24 -0500
From: Jackie Koerner <jkoerner@wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] You are invited to the conversation hour with
        Community Resilience and Sustainability
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
        <CAFVBDSNozG7ocp_tse26dVZvAUwi=LBhh3DeQZ_wC0_n5LvYMA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello,

You are invited to the quarterly Conversation hour led by Maggie Dennis,
Vice President of Community Resilience and Sustainability, on 31 August at
17:00 UTC <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1693501212>.

Maggie and others from the team will discuss Trust and Safety, the
Universal Code of Conduct, Committee Support, and Human Rights.

If you are a Wikimedian in good standing (not Foundation or community
banned), write to let us know you will be attending the conversation and
share your questions. More information about attending this conversation
hour
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resilience_and_Sustainability/Conversation_Hour_August_31_2023>
and notes from previous conversation hours can be found on Meta-wiki
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:CR%26S_meetings>.
Best regards and hope to see you there,

--

Jackie Koerner (she/her) Communication Specialist, Community Resilience &
Sustainability Location: Midwestern US (UTC-5)

Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 20:27:53 -0300
From: Evelin Heidel <eheidel@wikimedistas.uy>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Submit your proposal for GLAM Wiki Conference
        2023
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Message-ID:
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Hello everyone!

Submit your proposal for GLAM Wiki Conference 2023, which will take place
16-18 November, in Montevideo, Uruguay. We will have some online
components. Read more on how to submit here:
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/06/26/call-for-proposals-open-glam-wiki-conference/

Deadline has been extended to August 20, 23:59 anywhere in the world.

Looking forward to receiving your proposals!

--
Evelin Heidel
Encargada de Programas
Wikimedistas de Uruguay


*Conocé más >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM_Wiki_2023> *
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 21:22:38 +0530
From: Sohom Datta <dattasohom1@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Google not indexing Wikisource for last few
        years now.
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>,
        "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library"
        <wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
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>
> Has anyone tried telling the Google Search Console to index all the
> Wikisource language domains? Presumably a Foundation sysadmin would
> need to add the ownership verification tokens to do so:
> https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome


This has already been done for a while.


> for what I've read, it suffices to generate a sitemap file with MediaWiki
> and how to submit it to Google. There is a script for
> that: generateSitemap.php.
>
Once done, the sitemap has to be updated regularly in order to include the
> new pages.


I did look into this, but it seems like we do not generate sitemaps for any
sites right now ? The closest I got was
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198965 which mentions that we did
generate them around 2018 and hosted them on sitemaps.wikimedia.org,
however they were recently (in Jun 2023) deleted due to the sitemaps being
out of date and not helping our SEO rankings for Wikipedia.

Also while digging this up right now, I came across
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332101#8898869 which assumes that Google
uses a RCFeed/EventStreams API provided by the Wikimedia Foundation to
index pages. Is this true in the case of Wikisource, could it be possible
that they (Google) might not be using this for Wikisource and/or Wikisource
pages are getting filtered out (on Wikimedia Foundation's end) due to some
configuration error ?

Regards,
Sohom Datta
---
Open-source contributor @Wikimedia, @Chromium


On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:59 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com> wrote:

> See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607#8846296 and onwards
>
> Am Di., 1. Aug. 2023 um 17:27 Uhr schrieb Lauren Worden <
> laurenworden89@gmail.com>:
>
>> Has anyone tried telling the Google Search Console to index all the
>> Wikisource language domains? Presumably a Foundation sysadmin would
>> need to add the ownership verification tokens to do so:
>> https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome
>>
>> -LW
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 7:53 AM Dušan Kreheľ <dusankrehel@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hm.
>> >
>> > Page: La akonca (1888) (be.wikisource.org)
>> > Created day with the last modification: 17:26, 7 July 2023‎ CEST
>> > Indexed by Google: 7. júl 2023 18:21:14 UTC
>> >
>> > Not indexed: https://be.wikisource.org/wiki/Alkahol_(1913)
>> >
>> >
>> > 2023-08-01 8:47 GMT+02:00, Bodhisattwa <bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com>:
>> > > Hello all,
>> > >
>> > > Apologies for cross-posting.
>> > >
>> > > For those who have not noticed till now, Google is not indexing any
>> > > Wikisource language editions for the last couple of years which
>> practically
>> > > means that any Wikisource contents in any languages, which are being
>> > > created in these years, are not searchable on Google and hence largely
>> > > remain invisible on the web.
>> > >
>> > > This is an extremely demotivating and frustrating situation for the
>> > > existing Wikisource volunteers to witness, draining away all of our
>> past
>> > > and current efforts to bring and retain viewers, readers, GLAM
>> partners and
>> > > any potential new editors. We already have a very low awareness and
>> > > visibility about Wikisource among general internet users due to lack
>> of
>> > > organized support in these years but the invisibility on Google search
>> > > engine could become the last nail in our coffin, unless it is fixed
>> soon.
>> > >
>> > > There is a phabricator ticket raised by Darwinius back in December
>> 2022 -
>> > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325607.
>> > >
>> > > Can't this issue be put into priority by sys admins and WMF to work
>> upon?
>> > > Wikisource is still a sister project of Wikimedia and it needs some
>> very
>> > > basic care, after all.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Bodhisattwa
>> > > (Bengali Wikisource volunteer)
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org,
>> guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
>> and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
>> > Public archives at
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/4O7NJ2YXXQRNEEI5ZVKI4WVN2KLZUDTH/
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
>> _______________________________________________
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>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
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>
>
>
> --
> Amir (he/him)
>
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