Socialist Republic of Wikimedia anyone?
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From: mboverload <mboverloadlister(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] PD-art and official "position of the WMF"
[[Principality of Sealand]], anyone?
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Among the benefits of have organized Commons in the US, is that we
> can go by US copyright law. The
> alternative would be for Commons to adopt the most restrictive
> position of any country whatsoever. Given the expansive
> meanings of "moral rights", and the impossibility in some countries of
> surrendering them, this might make such a project impossible. As
> obvious, I am not a lawyer , and I tend to write the way I hope things
> will be.
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Robert Rohde <rarohde(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> > In my opinion, this is mistaken on many levels. Regardless of his
>>> > intentions, Erik Möller does not have the authority to speak for the
>>> > WMF. If the board does /intend/ to make this statement, a binding
>>> > resolution would be a much better means.
>>>
>>> I disagree, as a senior member of the foundation (either as a board
>>> member or as Vice-ED or whatever his current title is now - I'm not
>>> sure when the statement was made), he can certainly act as
>>> spokesperson for the foundation. If what he said doesn't fit the
>>> foundation's official position then it's an matter for internal
>>> disciplinary procedures, but I've seen nothing to suggest he was
>>> incorrect.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the sake of clarity, the statement being discussed is from July 2008,
>> when Erik would already be Deputy Director.
>>
>> -Robert Rohde
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Hi-
I have an idea for a wiki that I'd like to see developed by the wikimedia
foundation. I know that this listserv is good for developing
ideas, but I don't know who it reaches. I'd rather just talk to one person
about this project. At this point it has excelled beyond
a small, private wiki. I'm hoping for someone - hopefully someone at the
wikimedia foundation - to contact me so I can share the
necessary and relevant documents with them, and learn more about how to make
this happen.
-jim
There are opinions on Commons that Moeller's statement in this list
("[W]e've consistently held that faithful reproductions of
two-dimensional public domain works which are nothing more than
reproductions should be considered public domain for licensing
purposes") has been "overruled" by Mike Godwin's statement (which was
adressed on a Wikisource case)
See
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Licensing#About_Bridgeman_vs…
We should not accept such nonsense.
Klaus Graf
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Patricia Rodrigues
<snooze210904(a)yahoo.se> wrote:
[...]
>
> What I hopefully can point out today is that Commons is also not complying
> to the Four Freedoms, in light of its own licensing policy, which is the
> centerpiece of the project
> (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing). We have several
> inconsistencies in our "subpolicies", but the biggest one has just been
> introduced: the modification to {{PD-Art}} that has been the topic for this
> thread. The new wording on this template reflects a position of the
> community in light of opinions/positions of WMF staff members, and goes to
> the point of considering this an official position of the WMF.
>
We have never followed the Definition of Freedom to the letter and
neither to its spirit. The Commons community has always followed their
own way interpreting freedom just like they did in the PD-art
discussion. Which ended up in a decision that will allow us to use
become a broader repository but arguably also will drift us away from
freedom in its strict sense and may have rather unfortunate
consequences for our fellow UKians and Scandinavians. I know at least
one admin who did not want to take the risk of administering a
repository that would cause him to break his country's law. In the end
this was the decision of the Commons community itself only. The
Foundation allowed the project decide for themselves which they did.
>
> I believe that if we start allowing exceptions of this kind, Commons does
> not fulfill its role as a media repository that is indeed free to reuse, and
> its existence is not making much sense. So I would like to know what is the
> future of this project, and whether it is more feasible to have local
> uploads everywhere else, tightly regulated with a legislation, whichever
> that may be, instead of a central repository of "more or less free stuff, it
> sort of depends, you know".
>
Free to reuse is rather vague. The community has always drawn the line
of freedom themselves (indeed in some cases directly violating the
Definition of Freedom and the Licensing resolution).
Bryan
(As a side note I had seen this coming. It has always been a matter of
when, not if)
Please forward this email to other mailing lists, or to people who may
be interested.
As many astute observers have noticed, the term for several members of
the current Chapcom was up at the end of May. Several people
affiliated with the Chapcom, mostly our staff of advisers, have left
and now we need to fill the spots. I'm going to update the roster at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ChapCom tonight to reflect our current
membership situation. We are looking for members and advisers
(advisers especially!) who are interested in working with chapters and
volunteers from around the world. Enough members are a necessity for
speedy communications and decisions when it comes to our existing and
applicant chapters.
Diversity is key, we need people who are multilingual, people from
different cultural backgrounds, people with different perspectives,
etc. For intra-committee communication we really need people who can
communicate with some level of english, however.
If you, or somebody you know is interested in joining the chapcom,
send an email to chaptercommittee-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org. Include your
name, a little bit about yourself and some of your ideas and opinions
about Wikimedia's Chapters. Also, feel free to contact me or other
members of the chapcom directly if there are any questions or comments
about this. We're looking to expand within the next month, so don't
hesitate if you are interested!
Let everybody know. Thanks,
--Andrew Whitworth
Dear all,
please welcome with me User:Ral315 as new third list admin of
foundation-l. He has volunteered to help, noting that there has been
somewhat of a backlog in the moderation queue recently, and Austin and
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You will most probably know Ral315 already well as current
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introduction.
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Michael
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Please read below Cynthia
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From: Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising log site broken
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
2008/7/27 Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com>:
> As you can see from this bug report
> <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14875>, we have
> internal reporting set up on a different system and you can donate via
> the web-form on <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate>.
> External reporting (like the public comments list) hasn't been set up
> yet.
That's correct; we've recently consolidated most of our fundraising
data in CiviCRM 2.0. (There's still some pre-2006 data that we may
want to import, though it is not as complete as the more recent data.)
This new system is the responsibility of Rand Montoya, our recently
hired Head of Community Giving. We hope to have a new public
reporting engine up and running soon, which will be separate from the
CiviCRM 2.0 installation for security reasons.
This is not insignificant: to finally have almost 100,000 donors in a
single database allows us to understand past donation patterns much
better than ever before, and to properly thank and cultivate donors.
And, CiviCRM is an open source solution, which is also used by
Creative Commons (who are just a couple of blocks away). Together we
hope that we can drive adoption of a standard open source solution for
donor management in the non-profit space, which is currently dominated
by proprietary software.
Big thanks to David Strauss for his work on the database migration. :-)
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Hi,
I guess some Wikimedians will get involved with Software Freedom Day next month.
<http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/>
Does anyone know if we have any kind of promo materials oriented towards SFD?
cheers
Brianna
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Dear fellow Wikipedians,
At Meta Wiki I have created a new page, to overview information
concerning the multilingual aspects of Wikipedia: "Multilingual
Wikipedia".
I hope that it will be useful not only to the language subcommittee,
but also the Wikipedians of smaller Wikipedias and everyone who is
interested in these aspects.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Multilingual_Wikipedia
Kind regards
Ziko
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