Wikimedia-l August 2008

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Re: [Foundation-l] PD-art and official "position of the WMF"
by Geoffrey Plourde 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

Socialist Republic of Wikimedia anyone? ----- Original Message ---- From: mboverload <mboverloadlister(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:49:57 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] PD-art and official "position of the WMF" [[Principality of Sealand]], anyone? On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:37 PM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Among the benefits of have organized Commons in the US, is that we > can go by US copyright law. The > alternative would be for Commons to adopt the most restrictive > position of any country whatsoever. Given the expansive > meanings of "moral rights", and the impossibility in some countries of > surrendering them, this might make such a project impossible. As > obvious, I am not a lawyer , and I tend to write the way I hope things > will be. > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Robert Rohde <rarohde(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> > In my opinion, this is mistaken on many levels. Regardless of his >>> > intentions, Erik Möller does not have the authority to speak for the >>> > WMF. If the board does /intend/ to make this statement, a binding >>> > resolution would be a much better means. >>> >>> I disagree, as a senior member of the foundation (either as a board >>> member or as Vice-ED or whatever his current title is now - I'm not >>> sure when the statement was made), he can certainly act as >>> spokesperson for the foundation. If what he said doesn't fit the >>> foundation's official position then it's an matter for internal >>> disciplinary procedures, but I've seen nothing to suggest he was >>> incorrect. >> >> >> >> For the sake of clarity, the statement being discussed is from July 2008, >> when Erik would already be Deputy Director. >> >> -Robert Rohde >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > > > -- > David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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[Foundation-l] New Wiki-idea
by James Taylor 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

Hi- I have an idea for a wiki that I'd like to see developed by the wikimedia foundation. I know that this listserv is good for developing ideas, but I don't know who it reaches. I'd rather just talk to one person about this project. At this point it has excelled beyond a small, private wiki. I'm hoping for someone - hopefully someone at the wikimedia foundation - to contact me so I can share the necessary and relevant documents with them, and learn more about how to make this happen. -jim

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[Foundation-l] Bridgeman v. Corel worldwide for Wikimedia Commons - yes or no?
by Klaus Graf 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

There are opinions on Commons that Moeller's statement in this list ("[W]e've consistently held that faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works which are nothing more than reproductions should be considered public domain for licensing purposes") has been "overruled" by Mike Godwin's statement (which was adressed on a Wikisource case) See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Licensing#About_Bridgeman_vs… We should not accept such nonsense. Klaus Graf

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Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] PD-art and official "position of the WMF"
by Bryan Tong Minh 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Patricia Rodrigues <snooze210904(a)yahoo.se> wrote: [...] > > What I hopefully can point out today is that Commons is also not complying > to the Four Freedoms, in light of its own licensing policy, which is the > centerpiece of the project > (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing). We have several > inconsistencies in our "subpolicies", but the biggest one has just been > introduced: the modification to {{PD-Art}} that has been the topic for this > thread. The new wording on this template reflects a position of the > community in light of opinions/positions of WMF staff members, and goes to > the point of considering this an official position of the WMF. > We have never followed the Definition of Freedom to the letter and neither to its spirit. The Commons community has always followed their own way interpreting freedom just like they did in the PD-art discussion. Which ended up in a decision that will allow us to use become a broader repository but arguably also will drift us away from freedom in its strict sense and may have rather unfortunate consequences for our fellow UKians and Scandinavians. I know at least one admin who did not want to take the risk of administering a repository that would cause him to break his country's law. In the end this was the decision of the Commons community itself only. The Foundation allowed the project decide for themselves which they did. > > I believe that if we start allowing exceptions of this kind, Commons does > not fulfill its role as a media repository that is indeed free to reuse, and > its existence is not making much sense. So I would like to know what is the > future of this project, and whether it is more feasible to have local > uploads everywhere else, tightly regulated with a legislation, whichever > that may be, instead of a central repository of "more or less free stuff, it > sort of depends, you know". > Free to reuse is rather vague. The community has always drawn the line of freedom themselves (indeed in some cases directly violating the Definition of Freedom and the Licensing resolution). Bryan (As a side note I had seen this coming. It has always been a matter of when, not if)

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[Foundation-l] Applicants wanted for Chapcom
by Andrew Whitworth 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Please forward this email to other mailing lists, or to people who may be interested. As many astute observers have noticed, the term for several members of the current Chapcom was up at the end of May. Several people affiliated with the Chapcom, mostly our staff of advisers, have left and now we need to fill the spots. I'm going to update the roster at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ChapCom tonight to reflect our current membership situation. We are looking for members and advisers (advisers especially!) who are interested in working with chapters and volunteers from around the world. Enough members are a necessity for speedy communications and decisions when it comes to our existing and applicant chapters. Diversity is key, we need people who are multilingual, people from different cultural backgrounds, people with different perspectives, etc. For intra-committee communication we really need people who can communicate with some level of english, however. If you, or somebody you know is interested in joining the chapcom, send an email to chaptercommittee-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org. Include your name, a little bit about yourself and some of your ideas and opinions about Wikimedia's Chapters. Also, feel free to contact me or other members of the chapcom directly if there are any questions or comments about this. We're looking to expand within the next month, so don't hesitate if you are interested! Let everybody know. Thanks, --Andrew Whitworth

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[Foundation-l] New list admin: Ral315
by Michael Bimmler 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

Dear all, please welcome with me User:Ral315 as new third list admin of foundation-l. He has volunteered to help, noting that there has been somewhat of a backlog in the moderation queue recently, and Austin and I are glad to accept his offer. You will most probably know Ral315 already well as current editor-in-chief of the Wikipedia Signpost, so I'll skip the extended introduction. Best wishes, Michael for the foundation-l list administrators -- Michael Bimmler mbimmler(a)gmail.com

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[Foundation-l] donor list not visible Fwd: Fundraising log site broken
by mboverload 17 Aug '08

17 Aug '08

Please read below Cynthia ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising log site broken To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> 2008/7/27 Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com>: > As you can see from this bug report > <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14875>, we have > internal reporting set up on a different system and you can donate via > the web-form on <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate>. > External reporting (like the public comments list) hasn't been set up > yet. That's correct; we've recently consolidated most of our fundraising data in CiviCRM 2.0. (There's still some pre-2006 data that we may want to import, though it is not as complete as the more recent data.) This new system is the responsibility of Rand Montoya, our recently hired Head of Community Giving. We hope to have a new public reporting engine up and running soon, which will be separate from the CiviCRM 2.0 installation for security reasons. This is not insignificant: to finally have almost 100,000 donors in a single database allows us to understand past donation patterns much better than ever before, and to properly thank and cultivate donors. And, CiviCRM is an open source solution, which is also used by Creative Commons (who are just a couple of blocks away). Together we hope that we can drive adoption of a standard open source solution for donor management in the non-profit space, which is currently dominated by proprietary software. Big thanks to David Strauss for his work on the database migration. :-) -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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[Foundation-l] donor list not visible
by Cynthia Typaldos 17 Aug '08

17 Aug '08

Is there a reason the "Public list of donors" link is no longer working? http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate-options/en?fppc%5Bamount%5D=50 <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate-options/en?fppc%5Bamount%5D=50&f ppc%5Bcurrency_code%5D=USD&x=75&y=11> &fppc%5Bcurrency_code%5D=USD&x=75&y=11 It now goes back to the main donate page instead of the ongoing list.

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[Foundation-l] Software Freedom Day (Sept 20)
by Brianna Laugher 16 Aug '08

16 Aug '08

Hi, I guess some Wikimedians will get involved with Software Freedom Day next month. <http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/> Does anyone know if we have any kind of promo materials oriented towards SFD? cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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[Foundation-l] Multilingual Wikipedia: new overview page at Meta Wiki
by Ziko van Dijk 16 Aug '08

16 Aug '08

Dear fellow Wikipedians, At Meta Wiki I have created a new page, to overview information concerning the multilingual aspects of Wikipedia: "Multilingual Wikipedia". I hope that it will be useful not only to the language subcommittee, but also the Wikipedians of smaller Wikipedias and everyone who is interested in these aspects. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Multilingual_Wikipedia Kind regards Ziko -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde

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