First, I think the argument has become clearer now, thank you for your
On 7/31/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> (For the record, you were not the one arguing on semantics, you had a
> genuine question and I was happy you asked it.)
> I said #wikipedia *should* be the mother channel, but it's crap now. :)
When I joined the project, it was considered the center channel or
channel for English and languages which had no their own, so
historically it was.
Then we created other channels, #wikimedia, for other projects
(tionary, quote, news, commons ...).
Today, it works for English people and perhaps for people who had no
their own language's yet. But for coordination I suppose #wikimedia
enough. I heard once Spanish Wikipedians were complainted since they
spoke Spanish on #wikipedia, and I think it bad if it is really what
happened ... but I have no reason to make it "the mother channel for
wikipedia", as what it is not now.
And ... even if it is the argument about Wikipedia at large, is it
enough to call for opinions on wikipedia-l?
> That's what we are trying to change. By all means, discuss anything you
> want about it. :)
> Casey Brown
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> 2007/7/31, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net>:
> > Okay... I thought I cleared this up, but obviously not.
> Now it's a bit more clear :D
> > But please, can we stop arguing on semantics and get the guidelines? They
> > only apply to #wikipedia, so you do not need to think that you are going
> > get attacked by them in your local language's channel.
> Could I propose, also, an OT brainstorming?
> You say: #wikipedia is a "mother channel", a IRCchannel that should
> represent all the languages.
> It is not perceived so.
> It's perceveid like a (messy) english-language channel.
> The problem is: we have a lot of localized channels that works well.
> What's the meaning of #wikipedia? Why does it exist? What should it
> offer to the visitors?
> I suppose we should rethink it...
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