Hello there, it came to my attention today that several users have been reverting Platonides' Wiki-Bot, contesting it's "decision" about disqualifying pictures uploaded to Wikimedia Commons after midnight local time.
I am aware of the fact that there have been probably hundreds of files uploaded in the night of September 30/October 1, and plenty of those did not make it before midnight. I am also aware that in the perspective of a month, 2, 5, or even 20 minutes do not make any difference, but we have all agreed to have this competition running for exactly a month -- from midnight local time on September 1 until 23:59:59 local time on September 30 (while taking into consideration the needs of countries with multiple timezones, too.)
There is an English saying that you shouldn't change the rules in the middle of the game; I think it would apply for changing the rules /after the end/ of the game, too. What is more, it isn't fair for people from other countries that put a lot of effort into making it before the deadline if you decide to accept photos uploaded in October in your country, for whatever reason.
Having said so, I would urge every local team to give this some consideration, and try to explain to your participants' why pictures uploaded after midnight do not participate in the competition.
Thanks in advance,
In my opinion it would be good to understand the behaviour.
The 30 September was Sunday and probaly someone was out to take pictures, afterwards he tried to upload them and the upload was slow.
In my opinion it would be good to understand if this person has started to upload at 11:55pm or this person has started to upload 3 hours ago and the pictures, uploaded after the event, were part of this process of uploading.
What I would say is that the upload wizard is extremely slow and sometimes it hangs.
I used Commonist and suggested to use Commonist for mass uploading.
My experience is that if a tool is not efficient, the user cannot be "incriminated" for the inefficiency of the tool.
As national organizer probably we will evaluate in these terms, if someone was uploading pictures some hours before the contest and he has finished 10 or 15 minutes after midnight, they pictures can be accepted, if he has finished an hour after, probably he started too late his uploading.
The upload of a picture in high quality with the upload wizard can take also 5 minutes if the upload wizard doesn't hang, 10 minutes if there is a problem and the user must restart the upload, it means IMHO that 15 minutes after midnight is not a problem.
Regards
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.wiki@gmail.comwrote:
Hello there, it came to my attention today that several users have been reverting Platonides' Wiki-Bot, contesting it's "decision" about disqualifying pictures uploaded to Wikimedia Commons after midnight local time.
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