Here is an idea for the future, perhaps for WLM 2013.
I just finished scanning a set of 5 books, being a description of Denmark's towns, counties and villages, by Jens Peter Trap, printed 1898-1906. It is full of woodcut illustrations of what Denmark looked like a century ago.
I'm sure we could find similar books from many countries. A photo competition could be organized around taking new photos of the same objects, from the same angle, trying to reproduce the old book. Prizes could be given not only for fine photos, but also for similarity with the old illustrations. This is of course most relevant for the less known buildings and places, because we already have the main cathedrals covered.
Here's a picture of Gaardbogaard manor in northern Jutland, http://runeberg.org/trap/3-4/0067.html
Wikipedia has an article and a photo, but from another angle, http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A5rdbog%C3%A5rd
Here's the south portal of Fovlum church, http://runeberg.org/trap/3-4/0558.html
The Wikipedia article has two photos, but none that shows this architectual detail, http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fovlum_Kirke http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fovlum_Kirke
Hi Lars,
thanks for sharing this idea! I think it is a good and nice idea - actually something we already tried in the Netherlands as a local event in the historical city Delft. We collaborated there with the local GLAM center and a local newspaper - but unfortunately we dind't have any submissions for this subcontest. It seems the threshold was too high and the concept was a bit too complicated for people to grasp.
But with the proper preperation it could be really nice! What about running a pilot about it in Sweden? I would then suggest to make it an extra prize category, and that people are also still able to submit normal pictures. If it works well, you can share the lessons later on with other countries and we could see if it would work there too.
Best, Lodewijk
El 27 de abril de 2012 13:56, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se escribió:
Here is an idea for the future, perhaps for WLM 2013.
I just finished scanning a set of 5 books, being a description of Denmark's towns, counties and villages, by Jens Peter Trap, printed 1898-1906. It is full of woodcut illustrations of what Denmark looked like a century ago.
I'm sure we could find similar books from many countries. A photo competition could be organized around taking new photos of the same objects, from the same angle, trying to reproduce the old book. Prizes could be given not only for fine photos, but also for similarity with the old illustrations. This is of course most relevant for the less known buildings and places, because we already have the main cathedrals covered.
Here's a picture of Gaardbogaard manor in northern Jutland, http://runeberg.org/trap/3-4/**0067.htmlhttp://runeberg.org/trap/3-4/0067.html
Wikipedia has an article and a photo, but from another angle, http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/**G%C3%A5rdbog%C3%A5rdhttp://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A5rdbog%C3%A5rd
Here's the south portal of Fovlum church, http://runeberg.org/trap/3-4/**0558.htmlhttp://runeberg.org/trap/3-4/0558.html
The Wikipedia article has two photos, but none that shows this architectual detail, http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Fovlum_Kirkehttp://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fovlum_Kirke http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Category:Fovlum_Kirkehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fovlum_Kirke
-- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/
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thanks for sharing this idea! I think it is a good and nice idea - actually something we already tried in the Netherlands as a local event in the historical city Delft. We collaborated there with the local GLAM center and a local newspaper - but unfortunately we dindt have any submissions for this subcontest. It seems the threshold was too high and the concept was a bit too complicated for people to grasp.
Now I do not remember the details, but I remember that I considered taking part - but was put off because the requirement was not only to take pictures, which for me was actually pretty easy since I live in Delft, but also to write something which was beyond my language abilities. I hope the contest will make it better this year.
Best regards Yaroslav
This is very useful feedback, thank you. Since this subcontest was primarily organized by our partner, WikiDelft, I am not aware of all the details, and I didn't realize that they added this requirement. I am unsure if the NL local team will use a similar concept again this year.
Lodewijk
El 27 de abril de 2012 17:02, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ruescribió:
thanks for sharing this idea! I think it is a good and nice idea -
actually something we already tried in the Netherlands as a local event in the historical city Delft. We collaborated there with the local GLAM center and a local newspaper - but unfortunately we dindt
have any submissions for this subcontest. It seems the threshold was too high and the concept was a bit too complicated for people to grasp.
Now I do not remember the details, but I remember that I considered taking part - but was put off because the requirement was not only to take pictures, which for me was actually pretty easy since I live in Delft, but also to write something which was beyond my language abilities. I hope the contest will make it better this year.
Best regards Yaroslav
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This idea is not dissimilar to comparison photographs of say, commercial streets in a city, comparing what has changed and what has remained the same over the last century.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
This is very useful feedback, thank you. Since this subcontest was primarily organized by our partner, WikiDelft, I am not aware of all the details, and I didn't realize that they added this requirement. I am unsure if the NL local team will use a similar concept again this year.
Lodewijk
El 27 de abril de 2012 17:02, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru escribió:
thanks for sharing this idea! I think it is a good and nice idea - actually something we already tried in the Netherlands as a local event in the historical city Delft. We collaborated there with the local GLAM center and a local newspaper - but unfortunately we dindt
have any submissions for this subcontest. It seems the threshold was too high and the concept was a bit too complicated for people to grasp.
Now I do not remember the details, but I remember that I considered taking part - but was put off because the requirement was not only to take pictures, which for me was actually pretty easy since I live in Delft, but also to write something which was beyond my language abilities. I hope the contest will make it better this year.
Best regards Yaroslav
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On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote:
Here is an idea for the future, perhaps for WLM 2013.
I just finished scanning a set of 5 books, being a description of Denmark's towns, counties and villages, by Jens Peter Trap, printed 1898-1906. It is full of woodcut illustrations of what Denmark looked like a century ago.
On May 9th, we have a photo session* in the Antiquarian-Topographic Archive** of the Danish National Museum - and they may very well have pictures of the places that you mention - for comparison and to complete our collection.
*) http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Wikipedia_Loves_Nationalmuseet/Projekter... **) http://natmus.dk/salg-og-ydelser/museumsfaglige-ydelser/biblioteker-og-arkiv...
Regards, Ole
Hi Lars,
that is a great idea! I don't know if it's suitable for a photo competition aiming at the general public like WLM, but it's at least a great project for a group of photographers!
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote:
I'm sure we could find similar books from many countries. A photo competition could be organized around taking new photos of the same objects, from the same angle, trying to reproduce the old book.
While adding images to monuments lists and looking through old pictures of monuments, I noticed that this happens quite often "by accident": There seem to be certain views people prefer above all others when it comes to depicting a certain monument (even unknown and small ones).
Just one really great example: The first two pictures in the gallery at the bottom of https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alte_Lahnbr%C3%BCcke_(Limburg) were created about 150 years apart and show the same scenery from almost the same angle. I think I will try to reproduce the view of the painting more precisely this summer, thanks for the idea!
Best regards,
Kilian
Hi Lars, great idea indeed.
In the Italian Wikisource, we decided to "participate" in Wiki Loves Monuments just working on geographic/travel books, with illustrations and engravings. next step could be relating those with the list of monuments, as you suggest.
It would need a lot of work, but it's probably worth it.
Aubrey
2012/4/27 Kilian Kluge kilian@k-kluge.de:
Hi Lars,
that is a great idea! I don't know if it's suitable for a photo competition aiming at the general public like WLM, but it's at least a great project for a group of photographers!
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote:
I'm sure we could find similar books from many countries. A photo competition could be organized around taking new photos of the same objects, from the same angle, trying to reproduce the old book.
While adding images to monuments lists and looking through old pictures of monuments, I noticed that this happens quite often "by accident": There seem to be certain views people prefer above all others when it comes to depicting a certain monument (even unknown and small ones).
Just one really great example: The first two pictures in the gallery at the bottom of https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alte_Lahnbr%C3%BCcke_(Limburg) were created about 150 years apart and show the same scenery from almost the same angle. I think I will try to reproduce the view of the painting more precisely this summer, thanks for the idea!
Best regards,
Kilian
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On 27/04/12 14:12, Kilian Kluge wrote:
While adding images to monuments lists and looking through old pictures of monuments, I noticed that this happens quite often "by accident": There seem to be certain views people prefer above all others when it comes to depicting a certain monument (even unknown and small ones).
Just one really great example: The first two pictures in the gallery at the bottom of https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alte_Lahnbr%C3%BCcke_(Limburg) were created about 150 years apart and show the same scenery from almost the same angle. I think I will try to reproduce the view of the painting more precisely this summer, thanks for the idea!
Best regards,
Kilian
If you wanted to capture both the bridge (which was presumably the gate to the city) and the castle, that may be the only angle to do so. Also, the monuments could be prettier from a certain perspective. So if many people shared that opinion, it's quite logical that several guys used the same view.
Regards
Hello platonides,
this is not only a lovely idea but very useful too. Due to different effects as war, environmental damages, demolition and new surroundings to monuments, some of them are far more recognisable in old etchings or photos. This volunteer effort would be of great help to further research on the whole topic. Thank a lot for that idea!
Best regards Barbara
2012/4/27 Platonides platonides@gmail.com
On 27/04/12 14:12, Kilian Kluge wrote:
While adding images to monuments lists and looking through old pictures of monuments, I noticed that this happens quite often "by accident": There seem to be certain views people prefer above all others when it comes to depicting a certain monument (even unknown and small ones).
Just one really great example: The first two pictures in the gallery at the bottom of https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alte_Lahnbr%C3%BCcke_(Limburg) were created about 150 years apart and show the same scenery from almost the same angle. I think I will try to reproduce the view of the painting more precisely this summer, thanks for the idea!
Best regards,
Kilian
If you wanted to capture both the bridge (which was presumably the gate to the city) and the castle, that may be the only angle to do so. Also, the monuments could be prettier from a certain perspective. So if many people shared that opinion, it's quite logical that several guys used the same view.
Regards
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