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Maarten Dammers

10 Aug 2011 10 Aug '11

11:17 p.m.

Hi everyone, Jeroen is busy working on building the custom upload wizard system we want to use for Wiki Loves Monuments. You can play around with it at http://wiki.bn2vs.com/Special:UploadWizard?campaign=wlm-be Still a lot needs to be done, but now you can see work is being done on this! Maarten

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Strainu

11 Aug 11 Aug

10:41 a.m.

2011/8/11 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>nl>:

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Hi Maarten, Nice to see that. My question is: at this time, I could see no place for the monument's unique identifier. Are there plans to add that as well? Thanks, Strainu

Benoît Evellin

3:57 p.m.

Hi ! Good news, good job ! :-) I have the same question as Maarten's, and an other : is it possible to display the "others options" fields ? Is the place for the monument's ID will be there ? Thanks ! Benoît 2011/8/11 Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com>om>:

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2011/8/11 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>nl>:

Hi Maarten, Nice to see that. My question is: at this time, I could see no place for the monument's unique identifier. Are there plans to add that as well? Thanks, Strainu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr

Jane Darnell

6 p.m.

Yes! This does look very good. As far as the identifier goes, maybe what is needed is a "Designation" template like the one on the English wikipedia, where the ID can be stuffed for all countries/listholders. Often the ID will be a combination of text and numeric data, so it should just be a free form field, I think. Jane 2011/8/11 Benoît Evellin <benoit.evellin(a)wikimedia.fr>

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2011/8/11 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>nl>:

-- Benoît Evellin Membre de Wikimédia France www.wikimedia.fr _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

Maarten Dammers

8:28 p.m.

Hi Strainu, Op 11-8-2011 10:41, Strainu schreef:

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Nice to see that. My question is: at this time, I could see no place for the monument's unique identifier. Are there plans to add that as well?

Yes. We're definitely going to add that! I hope as soon as possible. Maarten

Susana Morais

15 Aug 15 Aug

10:29 a.m.

Hi all, I have several questions. During the upload, is the categorization in the country category going to be automatic, or not? Is the license going to be automatic as well? Is there going to be a field for the ID, or can you upload a photo directly from the monuments list (so that it automatically gets the ID)? Thanks! Susana 2011/8/11 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>

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Hi Strainu, Op 11-8-2011 10:41, Strainu schreef:

Nice to see that. My question is: at this time, I could see no place for the monument's unique identifier. Are there plans to add that as

well? Yes. We're definitely going to add that! I hope as soon as possible. Maarten _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

Maarten Dammers

11:55 a.m.

Hi Susana, Op 15 aug 2011 om 10:29 heeft Susana Morais <susana.morais(a)wikimedia.pt> het volgende geschreven:\

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Hi all, I have several questions. During the upload, is the categorization in the country category going to be automatic, or not?

I'm taking the Netherlands as an example. The category box of the upload wizard will automagicly be prefilled with "rijksmonumenten". The uploader can change this. A bot will sort out the rijksmonumenten category.

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Is the license going to be automatic as well?

Yes, in this case cc-by-sa-3.0-nl Besides that {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2011|nl}} gets added to track the competition.

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Is there going to be a field for the ID, or can you upload a photo directly from the monuments list (so that it automatically gets the ID)?

There is going to be a field for the id. Direct linking is probably not going to be supported in the uploadwizard. It does do multi file upload :-) Maarten

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Thanks! Susana 2011/8/11 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl> Hi Strainu, Op 11-8-2011 10:41, Strainu schreef:

Nice to see that. My question is: at this time, I could see no place for the monument's unique identifier. Are there plans to add that

as well? Yes. We're definitely going to add that! I hope as soon as possible. Maarten _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

Raul Kern

5:37 p.m.

Hi, what logic will this auto-categorization bot use? (where does it get category info) What preparation work needs do be done in local wikipedia do make auto-categorization work effortlessly in September? -- Raul 2011/8/15 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>nl>:

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Hi Susana, Op 15 aug 2011 om 10:29 heeft Susana Morais <susana.morais(a)wikimedia.pt> het volgende geschreven:\ Hi all, I have several questions. During the upload, is the categorization in the country category going to be automatic, or not? I'm taking the Netherlands as an example. The category box of the upload wizard will automagicly be prefilled with "rijksmonumenten". The uploader can change this. A bot will sort out the rijksmonumenten category. Is the license going to be automatic as well? Yes, in this case cc-by-sa-3.0-nl Besides that {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2011|nl}} gets added to track the competition. Is there going to be a field for the ID, or can you upload a photo directly from the monuments list (so that it automatically gets the ID)? There is going to be a field for the id. Direct linking is probably not going to be supported in the uploadwizard. It does do multi file upload :-) Maarten Thanks! Susana 2011/8/11 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>

Hi Strainu, Op 11-8-2011 10:41, Strainu schreef:

Nice to see that. My question is: at this time, I could see no place for the monument's unique identifier. Are there plans to add that as well?

Yes. We're definitely going to add that! I hope as soon as possible. Maarten _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu

Maarten Dammers

6:28 p.m.

Hi Raul, Op 15 aug 2011 om 17:37 heeft Raul Kern <raunator(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:\

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Good question! The assumption is that each monument has an unique id. I'll take the Rijksmonumenten as example again: * Get an image * find the id ({{rijksmonument|<id>}} * look in the database what list the id is in * look for a commonscat template in the list and use that Commonscategory to categorize the image * if the list article doesn't contain a commons link, look in the categories in which the list is categorized for links to Commons How can you help? Have lots of Commonscat links to help the bot. Maarten

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-- Raul 2011/8/15 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>nl>:

Hi Susana, Op 15 aug 2011 om 10:29 heeft Susana Morais <susana.morais(a)wikimedia.pt

het

volgende geschreven:\ Hi all, I have several questions. During the upload, is the categorization in the country category going to be automatic, or not? I'm taking the Netherlands as an example. The category box of the upload wizard will automagicly be prefilled with "rijksmonumenten". The uploader can change this. A bot will sort out the rijksmonumenten category. Is the license going to be automatic as well? Yes, in this case cc-by-sa-3.0-nl Besides that {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2011|nl}} gets added to track the competition. Is there going to be a field for the ID, or can you upload a photo directly from the monuments list (so that it automatically gets the ID)? There is going to be a field for the id. Direct linking is probably not going to be supported in the uploadwizard. It does do multi file upload :-) Maarten Thanks! Susana 2011/8/11 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>

Hi Strainu, Op 11-8-2011 10:41, Strainu schreef:

Nice to see that. My question is: at this time, I could see no place for the monument's unique identifier. Are there plans to add that as well?

Kilian Kluge

6:42 p.m.

Hi Maarten, thank you very much for the clarification, that helps a lot! Just a question since this was raised a couple of days ago on the discussion page for WLM: If this method is used, is it necessary that the monuments list the database table was imported from is the very same list that's actually on Wikipedia? Or is it possible to have a complete list for one state somewhere else and use a couple of table-based lists in the article namespace? As far as I understand, that's not possible, right? I'm asking because there are some guys who'd rather stick with their script-generated table-based-lists... Best regards, Kilian On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>wrote;wrote:

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Op 15 aug 2011 om 17:37 heeft Raul Kern <raunator(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:\

what logic will this auto-categorization bot use? (where does it get category info) What preparation work needs do be done in local wikipedia do make auto-categorization work effortlessly in September?

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Benoît Evellin
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