I would share with you this document ( http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love... ).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
Great work, congratulations! :)
Susana
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
I would share with you this document ( http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love... ).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Congratulazioni!
It`s a good start, much easier later on if you already have something to show for. The first is often the most difficult.
Ole, Wikimedia Norway
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Datum: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:25:59 +0100 Von: Susana Morais susana.morais@wikimedia.pt An: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First success of the Italian competition
Great work, congratulations! :)
Susana
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
I would share with you this document (
http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love...
).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all
participants
of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments
listed
in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future
these
monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia
Italia
within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
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Susana Morais Wikimedia Portugal http://www.wikimedia.pt
Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.
Participe também: http://www.wikimedia. http://www.wikimedia.pt/pthttp://www.wikimedia.pt/
Wow, this is huge. Excellent work Wikimedia Italia! :)
Delphine
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
I would share with you this document (http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love...).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Sounds great! Is this something that is public? Andrea, could you or someone from the team write a short blog post about it in the spirit of "what WLM can have for kind of effects" and how you made this happen?
Thanks,
Lodewijk
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
I would share with you this document ( http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love... ).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
I am impressed - especially that CC-0, rather than the usual CC-by-SA. Italy seems to be a country of opposing forces in data - it's as if things are either locked up tight or totally wide open, and rarely in between... Jane
2012/5/11 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Sounds great! Is this something that is public? Andrea, could you or someone from the team write a short blog post about it in the spirit of "what WLM can have for kind of effects" and how you made this happen?
Thanks,
Lodewijk
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
I would share with you this document ( http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love... ).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
On 11.05.2012 18:44, Jane Darnell wrote:
I am impressed - especially that CC-0, rather than the usual CC-by-SA. Italy seems to be a country of opposing forces in data - it's as if things are either locked up tight or totally wide open, and rarely in between... Jane
The problem is that the politics always go in direction different than that of the citizens.
The local government of towns are closer to citizens...
Ilario
Well I am just amazed - last year in Berlin it looked like this day would never come for Italy! I remember though standing at the Europa Nostra awards in Amsterdam last June and talking about WLM and some Italians kept asking "What about Italy?" because it wasn't on the map. When I explained about the Italian restrictions on freedom of panorama, theyt said "Oh of course! That is so Italian!". But I could tell they were interested in the work done in the Netherlands in 2010 and wondered how they could help.
Today, a year later, they can see results in neighboring countries, not just the Netherlands... Jane
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
On 11.05.2012 18:44, Jane Darnell wrote:
I am impressed - especially that CC-0, rather than the usual CC-by-SA. Italy seems to be a country of opposing forces in data - it's as if things are either locked up tight or totally wide open, and rarely in between... Jane
The problem is that the politics always go in direction different than that of the citizens.
The local government of towns are closer to citizens...
Ilario
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Sorry, but things in Italy seems to me complicated. I can take a photo of a work in the public domain and licence it under whatever I like. But these is not the case. As I understand it, the propietary waivers to require a fee for commercial purposes with the condition to use CC-0. So, I can not licence my payment-free photo under CC-BY-SA, as the conditions are more retrictive. Anyway, there are a lot of photos now used under CC-BY-SA: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pavia How to manege it? Those photos under CC-BY-SA will not be included in the lists? The new ones will not enter the contest if not CC-0? Anyway, it is an important first step.
Vicenç
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:44:25 +0200 From: jane023@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First success of the Italian competition
I am impressed - especially that CC-0, rather than the usual CC-by-SA. Italy seems to be a country of opposing forces in data - it's as if things are either locked up tight or totally wide open, and rarely in between... Jane
2012/5/11 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Sounds great! Is this something that is public? Andrea, could you or someone from the team write a short blog post about it in the spirit of "what WLM can have for kind of effects" and how you made this happen?
Thanks, Lodewijk
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
I would share with you this document (http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love...).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
_______________________________________________
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Please, forget this message, I was wrong. A work under CC-0 can be relincensed under CC-BY-SA. The question is if the officials accept also other CC licenses more restrictive than CC-0.
Vicenç
From: vriullop@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:44:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First success of the Italian competition
Sorry, but things in Italy seems to me complicated. I can take a photo of a work in the public domain and licence it under whatever I like. But these is not the case. As I understand it, the propietary waivers to require a fee for commercial purposes with the condition to use CC-0. So, I can not licence my payment-free photo under CC-BY-SA, as the conditions are more retrictive. Anyway, there are a lot of photos now used under CC-BY-SA: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pavia How to manege it? Those photos under CC-BY-SA will not be included in the lists? The new ones will not enter the contest if not CC-0? Anyway, it is an important first step.
Vicenç
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:44:25 +0200 From: jane023@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First success of the Italian competition
I am impressed - especially that CC-0, rather than the usual CC-by-SA. Italy seems to be a country of opposing forces in data - it's as if things are either locked up tight or totally wide open, and rarely in between... Jane
2012/5/11 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Sounds great! Is this something that is public? Andrea, could you or someone from the team write a short blog post about it in the spirit of "what WLM can have for kind of effects" and how you made this happen?
Thanks, Lodewijk
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
I would share with you this document (http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love...).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
_______________________________________________
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Congratulations Wikimedia Italia ! Very good news :)
Is it public ? Do you continue your work with other cities ?
I'm very impressed by this important step.
Cheers,
Adrienne
2012/5/11 Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com
Please, forget this message, I was wrong. A work under CC-0 can be relincensed under CC-BY-SA. The question is if the officials accept also other CC licenses more restrictive than CC-0.
Vicenç
From: vriullop@hotmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:44:16 +0000
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First success of the Italian competition
Sorry, but things in Italy seems to me complicated. I can take a photo of a work in the public domain and licence it under whatever I like. But these is not the case. As I understand it, the propietary waivers to require a fee for commercial purposes with the condition to use CC-0. So, I can not licence my payment-free photo under CC-BY-SA, as the conditions are more retrictive. Anyway, there are a lot of photos now used under CC-BY-SA: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pavia How to manege it? Those photos under CC-BY-SA will not be included in the lists? The new ones will not enter the contest if not CC-0? Anyway, it is an important first step.
Vicenç
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:44:25 +0200 From: jane023@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First success of the Italian competition
I am impressed - especially that CC-0, rather than the usual CC-by-SA. Italy seems to be a country of opposing forces in data - it's as if things are either locked up tight or totally wide open, and rarely in between... Jane
2012/5/11 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Sounds great! Is this something that is public? Andrea, could you or someone from the team write a short blog post about it in the spirit of "what WLM can have for kind of effects" and how you made this happen?
Thanks,
Lodewijk
2012/5/11 Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
I would share with you this document ( http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love... ).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Vicenç Riullop, 11/05/2012 21:10:
Please, forget this message, I was wrong. A work under CC-0 can be relincensed under CC-BY-SA. The question is if the officials accept also other CC licenses more restrictive than CC-0.
I'm not involved with this result, but indeed the language of the resolution would literally require you to release such photos under CC-0, to benefit from the exception. However, releasing photos under CC-BY-SA is the stated objective only a few lines above, and the Comune can't actually put any copyright requirement as the law is not about copyright (most stuff is PD) but about fees, so the point is a sub-licenseable exemption from the authorisation requests and fees. Moreover, it's true that CC-0 derivatives can follow any license (or even be copyrighted, of course) – although one might argue about what's a true derivative work which deserves its own copyright status – so I think the goal was just to say that there are no restrictions whatsoever, as for their open data initiatives (maps etc.), also mentioned in the resolution.
Nemo
Complimenti. Auguri Illario e WM-IT!!
Nel FB di Iberocoop c'è un post su questo.
Santi Navarro Wikimedia España
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:21:40 +0200 From: valdelli@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] First success of the Italian competition
I would share with you this document (http://cortesi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simone_cortesi_pavia_wiki_love...).
It's a "formal" decision of the local government of the town of Pavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavia) to renounce to the Italian law protecting monuments (D.Lgs 42/2004) in order to give to all participants of Wiki Loves Monuments the possibility to take photos of monuments listed in the document.
In addition this a permanent decision, it means that also in future these monuments are under CC-0 license of Creative Commons.
This is a first small success of the outreach activity of Wikimedia Italia within the Wiki loves Monuments activity.
Ilario
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Congratulations! Now, make Pavia the town with the best graphical articles of the whole Italy! (and then try to make other towns jealous... :)
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org