Following a discussion about not being able to link from central notice to websites which allow third parties to track the visitors (eg. a website has Google Analytics installed -> Google can track the visitors to that site), I have performed a quick review of which WLM websites embed code from a third party.
I am considering third-party a webserver controlled by someone else than the WLM organiser group, another chapter or the WMF. So it is ok to include an image from your own website, wikilovesmonuments.org or upload.wikimedia.org, as is to include the international piwik stats server javascript. But it would not be ok to include facebook javascript for instance.
The WLM skin includes a dead image to www.visuelya.de, which should really not be there. Given that site seems to be owned by Elke, I have also not considered it a "third-party".
== Analysis results ==
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cat/ Bad. Embeds content from apis.google.com and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.com.ar Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.at/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and piwik tracking code from web.beobachte.es (owned by whom?)
http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ Bad: Includes images at generation.by and www.lettera27.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cl/ Bad: Includes image from i.creativecommons.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.co/ Bad: Includes images from s.gravatar.com and tracking code from stats.wordpress.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cz/ Good
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ee/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net (an alias of the same server?)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.hu/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.in/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ Bad: Embeds javascript from platform.twitter.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and iframe from www.facebook.com
http://www.wlmpanama.org.pa/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.givealink.com and image from a0.twimg.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ph/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/ Bad: Embeds javascript from s3.www.universalsubtitles.org (for embedding a video?), images from nicubunu.ro and fedoraproject.ro, iframe from www.facebook.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ru/ Good
http://wlm.wikimedia.rs/pocetna.php Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/ Bad: Javascript from widgets.twimg.com and google-analytics
http://wikilovesmonuments.se/ Bad: Javascript from connect.facebook.net and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ch/ Good
http://wlm.org.ua/ Bad: Images from a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net (hint: the map is available in commons) and wikimediaukraine.files.wordpress.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.us/ Good
PS: wikilovesmonuments.fr includes a javascript from commons, but the category name is missing.
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Platonides platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Following a discussion about not being able to link from central notice to websites which allow third parties to track the visitors (eg. a website has Google Analytics installed -> Google can track the visitors to that site), I have performed a quick review of which WLM websites embed code from a third party.
I am considering third-party a webserver controlled by someone else than the WLM organiser group, another chapter or the WMF. So it is ok to include an image from your own website, wikilovesmonuments.org or upload.wikimedia.org, as is to include the international piwik stats server javascript. But it would not be ok to include facebook javascript for instance.
The WLM skin includes a dead image to www.visuelya.de, which should really not be there. Given that site seems to be owned by Elke, I have also not considered it a "third-party".
== Analysis results ==
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cat/ Bad. Embeds content from apis.google.com and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.com.ar Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.at/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and piwik tracking code from web.beobachte.es (owned by whom?)
http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ Bad: Includes images at generation.by and www.lettera27.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cl/ Bad: Includes image from i.creativecommons.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.co/ Bad: Includes images from s.gravatar.com and tracking code from stats.wordpress.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cz/ Good
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ee/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net (an alias of the same server?)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.hu/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.in/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ Bad: Embeds javascript from platform.twitter.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and iframe from www.facebook.com
http://www.wlmpanama.org.pa/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.givealink.com and image from a0.twimg.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ph/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/ Bad: Embeds javascript from s3.www.universalsubtitles.org (for embedding a video?), images from nicubunu.ro and fedoraproject.ro, iframe from www.facebook.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ru/ Good
http://wlm.wikimedia.rs/pocetna.php Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/ Bad: Javascript from widgets.twimg.com and google-analytics
http://wikilovesmonuments.se/ Bad: Javascript from connect.facebook.net and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ch/ Good
http://wlm.org.ua/ Bad: Images from a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net (hint: the map is available in commons) and wikimediaukraine.files.wordpress.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.us/ Good
PS: wikilovesmonuments.fr includes a javascript from commons, but the category name is missing.
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ fixed. Thanks for noticing.
A tiny update: - http://www.wlm.org.il/ was not listed and has a tiny issue. - http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ is using Google Analytics. Changes from Good to Bad. - http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ is also including a facebook script. - http://wikilovesmonuments.ro is also using Google Analytics.
OTOH, http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ and http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ were very fast and have already resolved the identified issues. For them goes the badge of the quick webmaster :)
Hi,I think I got rid of the stuff on wikilovesmonuments.se, please have another look to make sure.
And thanks for pointing this out. Is there another way to get that function without the tracking? /axel ====================================
Axel PetterssonProjektledare GLAM/OutreachWikimedia Sverige jobb/work +46 (0)733 96 55 65 axel.pettersson@wikimedia.se ojobb/non work +46 (0)730 59 58 13
haxpett@hotmail.com
Twitter: @Haxpett Wikimedia.se - Stöd fri kunskap!
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:12:19 +0200 From: platonides@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] List of wlm websites including third-party content
A tiny update:
- http://www.wlm.org.il/ was not listed and has a tiny issue.
- http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ is using Google Analytics. Changes from
Good to Bad.
- http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ is also including a facebook script.
- http://wikilovesmonuments.ro is also using Google Analytics.
OTOH, http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ and http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ were very fast and have already resolved the identified issues. For them goes the badge of the quick webmaster :)
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Creo que ya está listo; removí el plugin de stats del sitio colombiano ( wikilovesmonuments.co). ¿Está bien así, o sigue saliendo algo?
Racso
2012/8/28 Axel Pettersson haxpett@hotmail.com
Hi, I think I got rid of the stuff on wikilovesmonuments.se, please have another look to make sure.
And thanks for pointing this out. Is there another way to get that function without the tracking?
/axel
==================================== Axel Pettersson Projektledare GLAM/Outreach Wikimedia Sverige
jobb/work +46 (0)733 96 55 65 axel.pettersson@wikimedia.se
ojobb/non work +46 (0)730 59 58 13 haxpett@hotmail.com
Twitter: @Haxpett https://twitter.com/#%21/haxpett
Wikimedia.se http://www.wikimedia.se - Stöd fri kunskap!
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:12:19 +0200 From: platonides@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] List of wlm websites including
third-party content
A tiny update:
- http://www.wlm.org.il/ was not listed and has a tiny issue.
- http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ is using Google Analytics. Changes from
Good to Bad.
- http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ is also including a facebook script.
- http://wikilovesmonuments.ro is also using Google Analytics.
OTOH, http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ and http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ were very fast and have already resolved the identified issues. For them goes the badge of the quick webmaster :)
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
On 29/08/12 00:30, Axel Pettersson wrote:
Hi, I think I got rid of the stuff on wikilovesmonuments.se, please have another look to make sure.
And thanks for pointing this out. Is there another way to get that function without the tracking?
/axel
It's ok now.
What functionalities were you providing?
I suppose the twitter usage was a twitter box similar to the one of http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/ or http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cat/ mentioned by Vicenç.
What was done with facebook? A 'like' link? A likebox?
Facebook has many plugins available: http://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/
Thx, Platonides, for checking it. Those who use embed javascript from widgets.twimg.com include http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/, not listed. I copied it from there to show #wikilovesmonuments tweets, as probably others did.
Vicenç
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:57:45 +0200 From: platonides@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] List of wlm websites including third-party content
== Analysis results ==
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cat/ Bad. Embeds content from apis.google.com and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.com.ar Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.at/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and piwik tracking code from web.beobachte.es (owned by whom?)
http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ Bad: Includes images at generation.by and www.lettera27.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cl/ Bad: Includes image from i.creativecommons.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.co/ Bad: Includes images from s.gravatar.com and tracking code from stats.wordpress.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cz/ Good
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ee/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net (an alias of the same server?)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.hu/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.in/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ Bad: Embeds javascript from platform.twitter.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and iframe from www.facebook.com
http://www.wlmpanama.org.pa/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.givealink.com and image from a0.twimg.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ph/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/ Bad: Embeds javascript from s3.www.universalsubtitles.org (for embedding a video?), images from nicubunu.ro and fedoraproject.ro, iframe from www.facebook.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ru/ Good
http://wlm.wikimedia.rs/pocetna.php Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/ Bad: Javascript from widgets.twimg.com and google-analytics
http://wikilovesmonuments.se/ Bad: Javascript from connect.facebook.net and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ch/ Good
http://wlm.org.ua/ Bad: Images from a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net (hint: the map is available in commons) and wikimediaukraine.files.wordpress.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.us/ Good
PS: wikilovesmonuments.fr includes a javascript from commons, but the category name is missing.
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
wikilovesmonuments.cl should be ok now. Thanks Platonides!
2012/8/29 Vicenç Riullop vriullop@hotmail.com
Thx, Platonides, for checking it. Those who use embed javascript from widgets.twimg.com include http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/, not listed. I copied it from there to show #wikilovesmonuments tweets, as probably others did.
Vicenç
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:57:45 +0200 From: platonides@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] List of wlm websites including
third-party content
== Analysis results ==
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cat/ Bad. Embeds content from apis.google.com and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.com.ar Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.at/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and piwik tracking code from web.beobachte.es (owned by whom?)
http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ Bad: Includes images at generation.by and www.lettera27.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cl/ Bad: Includes image from i.creativecommons.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.co/ Bad: Includes images from s.gravatar.com and tracking code from stats.wordpress.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cz/ Good
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ee/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net (an alias of the same server?)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.hu/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.in/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ Bad: Embeds javascript from platform.twitter.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and iframe from www.facebook.com
http://www.wlmpanama.org.pa/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.givealink.com and image from a0.twimg.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ph/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/ Bad: Embeds javascript from s3.www.universalsubtitles.org (for embedding a video?), images from nicubunu.ro and fedoraproject.ro, iframe from www.facebook.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ru/ Good
http://wlm.wikimedia.rs/pocetna.php Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/ Bad: Javascript from widgets.twimg.com and google-analytics
http://wikilovesmonuments.se/ Bad: Javascript from connect.facebook.net and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ch/ Good
http://wlm.org.ua/ Bad: Images from a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net (hint: the map is available in commons) and wikimediaukraine.files.wordpress.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.us/ Good
PS: wikilovesmonuments.fr includes a javascript from commons, but the category name is missing.
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
On 29/08/12 12:26, Vicenç Riullop wrote:
Thx, Platonides, for checking it. Those who use embed javascript from widgets.twimg.com include http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/, not listed. I copied it from there to show #wikilovesmonuments tweets, as probably others did.
Vicenç
It does. I had iterated through the country websites, missing the international one.
Maybe we should prepare a twitter proxy for showing the WLM tweets without using twitter servers.
Racso, Osmar: they are clean now.
Hey Dumisani,
as you an read, WMF does not allow for websites to add external content. our website uses Google Analytics and Twitter. That will have to be removed ....
(I know, we are now getting the Central Notice, but I want to avoid troubles with this)
Regards, Maarten
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Platonides platonides@gmail.com Date: 2012/8/28 Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] List of wlm websites including third-party content To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Following a discussion about not being able to link from central notice to websites which allow third parties to track the visitors (eg. a website has Google Analytics installed -> Google can track the visitors to that site), I have performed a quick review of which WLM websites embed code from a third party.
I am considering third-party a webserver controlled by someone else than the WLM organiser group, another chapter or the WMF. So it is ok to include an image from your own website, wikilovesmonuments.org or upload.wikimedia.org, as is to include the international piwik stats server javascript. But it would not be ok to include facebook javascript for instance.
The WLM skin includes a dead image to www.visuelya.de, which should really not be there. Given that site seems to be owned by Elke, I have also not considered it a "third-party".
== Analysis results ==
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cat/ Bad. Embeds content from apis.google.com and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.com.ar Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.at/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and piwik tracking code from web.beobachte.es (owned by whom?)
http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ Bad: Includes images at generation.by and www.lettera27.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cl/ Bad: Includes image from i.creativecommons.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.co/ Bad: Includes images from s.gravatar.com and tracking code from stats.wordpress.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cz/ Good
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ee/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net (an alias of the same server?)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.hu/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.in/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ Bad: Embeds javascript from platform.twitter.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and iframe from www.facebook.com
http://www.wlmpanama.org.pa/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.givealink.com and image from a0.twimg.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ph/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/ Bad: Embeds javascript from s3.www.universalsubtitles.org (for embedding a video?), images from nicubunu.ro and fedoraproject.ro, iframe from www.facebook.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ru/ Good
http://wlm.wikimedia.rs/pocetna.php Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/ Bad: Javascript from widgets.twimg.com and google-analytics
http://wikilovesmonuments.se/ Bad: Javascript from connect.facebook.net and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ch/ Good
http://wlm.org.ua/ Bad: Images from a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net (hint: the map is available in commons) and wikimediaukraine.files.wordpress.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.us/ Good
PS: wikilovesmonuments.fr includes a javascript from commons, but the category name is missing.
_______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Do note that ATM we don't consider any of these "issues", so we don't intend to "fix" any of them. I asked Tomasz offlist to provide a link to that statement about the central notice and he was unable to do so, so I am moving along on the assumption that there is no such rule. If you are able to provide a link to such a policy, please do, otherwise these limitations are uncalled for.
Strainu
2012/8/28 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
Following a discussion about not being able to link from central notice to websites which allow third parties to track the visitors (eg. a website has Google Analytics installed -> Google can track the visitors to that site), I have performed a quick review of which WLM websites embed code from a third party.
I am considering third-party a webserver controlled by someone else than the WLM organiser group, another chapter or the WMF. So it is ok to include an image from your own website, wikilovesmonuments.org or upload.wikimedia.org, as is to include the international piwik stats server javascript. But it would not be ok to include facebook javascript for instance.
The WLM skin includes a dead image to www.visuelya.de, which should really not be there. Given that site seems to be owned by Elke, I have also not considered it a "third-party".
== Analysis results ==
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cat/ Bad. Embeds content from apis.google.com and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.com.ar Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.at/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and piwik tracking code from web.beobachte.es (owned by whom?)
http://wikilovesmonuments.by/ Bad: Includes images at generation.by and www.lettera27.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikimedia.ca/wlmca/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cl/ Bad: Includes image from i.creativecommons.org
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.co/ Bad: Includes images from s.gravatar.com and tracking code from stats.wordpress.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.cz/ Good
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ee/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net (an alias of the same server?)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.hu/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.in/ Good
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.mx/ Bad: Embeds javascript from platform.twitter.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and iframe from www.facebook.com
http://www.wlmpanama.org.pa/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.givealink.com and image from a0.twimg.com
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ph/ Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/ Bad: Embeds javascript from s3.www.universalsubtitles.org (for embedding a video?), images from nicubunu.ro and fedoraproject.ro, iframe from www.facebook.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ru/ Good
http://wlm.wikimedia.rs/pocetna.php Good
http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/ Bad: Javascript from widgets.twimg.com and google-analytics
http://wikilovesmonuments.se/ Bad: Javascript from connect.facebook.net and widgets.twimg.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.ch/ Good
http://wlm.org.ua/ Bad: Images from a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net (hint: the map is available in commons) and wikimediaukraine.files.wordpress.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.us/ Good
PS: wikilovesmonuments.fr includes a javascript from commons, but the category name is missing.
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi Strainu, indeed there is no policy about (not) allowing links from CentralNotice banners to websites using third party analytics systems, just as I wrote in my offlist e-mail to you.
I can only provide you with an opinion of a Wikimedia Foundation Legal and Community Advocacy team member, who is deeply uncomfortable about us linking to websites using Google Analytics, and therefore giving our users' very sensitive data to a third company for free.
I would very much like to avoid any controversies and arguments with regard to this subject; we have installed and configured Piwik for your use specifically to keep our users' data safe, and am (yet again) urging you to do use this opportunity.
Tomasz
There are a bunch of unanswered questions about piwik that make me not want to use it:
Do you offer any guarantees on the uptime or stress-performance of the system? Do you offer any way to import past data from Google Analytics? Is there any guarantee that you're following data protection rules in the country where the server is installed? Does that law even allow private persons to access the data (that's especially doubtful, as it is probably in the EU)? What happens to the piwik installation after the contest ends?
I'd much rather go along with the known problems of GA rather than explore unchartered waters. But most of all, my problem is: why didn't anyone have a problem with those last year, as we were using both GA and Facebook then, but not it suddenly became such a huge (non-)issue.
Also, I don't know about the universalsubtitles thingie, but removing the Facebook box would not serve us at all, since most of the promotion was done on Facebook.
If none of you will be willing to set a Central Notice for wlm.ro, we can always use alternative promotion means.
Strainu
2012/8/29 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.wiki@gmail.com:
Hi Strainu, indeed there is no policy about (not) allowing links from CentralNotice banners to websites using third party analytics systems, just as I wrote in my offlist e-mail to you.
I can only provide you with an opinion of a Wikimedia Foundation Legal and Community Advocacy team member, who is deeply uncomfortable about us linking to websites using Google Analytics, and therefore giving our users' very sensitive data to a third company for free.
I would very much like to avoid any controversies and arguments with regard to this subject; we have installed and configured Piwik for your use specifically to keep our users' data safe, and am (yet again) urging you to do use this opportunity.
Tomasz
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On 29/08/12 16:47, Strainu wrote:
Do note that ATM we don't consider any of these "issues", so we don't intend to "fix" any of them. I asked Tomasz offlist to provide a link to that statement about the central notice and he was unable to do so, so I am moving along on the assumption that there is no such rule. If you are able to provide a link to such a policy, please do, otherwise these limitations are uncalled for.
Strainu
May I ask what does Google Analytics provide you that the piwik server doesn't?
If there's an easy alternative with providing the same functionality that additionally doesn't affect your visitors privacy, I wouldn't call that a 'limitation'.
http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/ Bad: Embeds javascript from s3.www.universalsubtitles.org (for embedding a video?), images from nicubunu.ro and fedoraproject.ro, iframe from www.facebook.com, javascript from google-analytics.com
2012/8/29 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
On 29/08/12 16:47, Strainu wrote:
Do note that ATM we don't consider any of these "issues", so we don't intend to "fix" any of them. I asked Tomasz offlist to provide a link to that statement about the central notice and he was unable to do so, so I am moving along on the assumption that there is no such rule. If you are able to provide a link to such a policy, please do, otherwise these limitations are uncalled for.
Strainu
May I ask what does Google Analytics provide you that the piwik server doesn't?
Please read my previous email.
Thanks, Strainu
On 29/08/12 17:58, Strainu wrote:
2012/8/29 Platonides:
May I ask what does Google Analytics provide you that the piwik server doesn't?
Please read my previous email.
Thanks, Strainu
Sorry, I saw it just after sending it.
I agree the stress-performance is a good point for Google Analytics. I don't know the server specifics and can't answer that question, although it's probably adequate. It's probable the admins allow you to import the previous data (that is, if you can get it out from google analytics), since piwik docs mention the possibility of doing imports.
Am 28.08.12 16:57, schrieb Platonides:
The WLM skin includes a dead image to www.visuelya.de, which should really not be there. Given that site seems to be owned by Elke, I have also not considered it a "third-party".
Sorry for that. Where did you find it? Maybe I can provide an easy fix.
e.
I think it is in Cimy Header Image Rotator configuration in the WP theme:
<noscript> <div id="cimy_div_id_0_nojs"> <img id="cimy_img_id" src="http://www.visuelya.de/wlmeu/wp-content/Cimy_Header_Images/0/header_6.jpg" alt="" /> </div> </noscript>Probably it should point to a local default image.
Vicenç
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:21:01 +0200 From: ew_wp@web.de To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] List of wlm websites including third-party content
Am 28.08.12 16:57, schrieb Platonides:
The WLM skin includes a dead image to www.visuelya.de, which should really not be there. Given that site seems to be owned by Elke, I have also not considered it a "third-party".
Sorry for that. Where did you find it? Maybe I can provide an easy fix.
e.
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Am 29/08/12 18:21, schrieb elya:
Am 28.08.12 16:57, schrieb Platonides:
The WLM skin includes a dead image to www.visuelya.de, which should really not be there. Given that site seems to be owned by Elke, I have also not considered it a "third-party".
Sorry for that. Where did you find it? Maybe I can provide an easy fix.
e.
It's in the rotating banner, the image is only loaded when javascript is not available:
<div id="cimy_div_id_0">Loading images...</div> <div class="cimy_div_id_0_caption"></div> <noscript> <div id="cimy_div_id_0_nojs"> <img id="cimy_img_id" src="http://www.visuelya.de/wlmeu/wp-content/Cimy_Header_Images/0/header_6.jpg" alt="" /> </div> </noscript>
It's line 85 of wp-content/themes/wlm/header.php I would have expected it to be a reference to one of the local images used. And worst case to have a picture there :)
2012/8/28 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
We're the bad guys! :D
http://dieciannidisapere.it is a blog hosted by Wikimedia Italia and created for the Wikipedia X anniversary, probably wikilovesmonuments.it gets some images from there, this can be easily fixed.
We should have eliminated all google embeds. We where wondering if it is a problem to keep the code for stats.wordpress.com for historical reasons.
Finally I don't see what's the problem with gravatar (it's a service to automatically collect your avatars when you post a comment in a blog).
Any explanation will help :)
Cristian
Il giorno 29/ago/2012 21:24, "Cristian Consonni" kikkocristian@gmail.com ha scritto:
2012/8/28 Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.it/ Bad: Embeds javascript from ajax.googleapis.com, www.google.com, widgets.twimg.com, stats.wordpress.com and s0.wp.com. Images from dieciannidisapere.it and s.gravatar.com
We're the bad guys! :D
http://dieciannidisapere.it is a blog hosted by Wikimedia Italia and created for the Wikipedia X anniversary, probably wikilovesmonuments.it gets some images from there, this can be easily fixed.
We should have eliminated all google embeds. We where wondering if it is a problem to keep the code for stats.wordpress.com for historical reasons.
Finally I don't see what's the problem with gravatar (it's a service to automatically collect your avatars when you post a comment in a blog).
Any explanation will help :)
I'm sorry but without some explanation we will not be able to fix our site... Can we keep WordPress stats? And Twitter? And Gravatar?
Cristian
Hello,
2012/8/28 Platonides platonides@gmail.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net (an alias of the same server?)
This is our test/pre-production server, but when I look at the source code, the logo url is http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/wlm.png ? What file do you still see on the other server ?
Best regards, Sylvain.
On 30/08/12 11:17, Sylvain Boissel wrote:
Hello,
2012/8/28 Platonides platonides@gmail.com
http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/ Bad: The logo lives at dev.wikimedia.typhon.net <http://dev.wikimedia.typhon.net> (an alias of the same server?)
This is our test/pre-production server, but when I look at the source code, the logo url is http://wikilovesmonuments.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/wlm.png ? What file do you still see on the other server ?
It's all fixed now, Sylvain.
Jean-Frédéric changed it a couple of hours after my mail.
Best regards
For AT I removed the twitter plugin - would be great if someone could find/write one that works without embedding code from a third party. The piwik web.beobachte.es is my private one so there is no one else who gents the data. I really would like to keep it in the site so there is a easy way for us in Austria to compare with last year. Of course we also included the wlm-org-piwik. If we could get a login for the org piwik I can try to export and import the data from last year there too - however most probably this would make more sense to be done in October.
Best regards, Ruben
Am 28.08.2012 um 16:57 schrieb Platonides platonides@gmail.com:
http://wikilovesmonuments.at/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.twimg.com and piwik tracking code from web.beobachte.es (owned by whom?)
On 30/08/12 12:14, Ruben Demus wrote:
For AT I removed the twitter plugin - would be great if someone could find/write one that works without embedding code from a third party.
I agree.
The piwik web.beobachte.es http://web.beobachte.es/ is my private one so there is no one else who gents the data.
That's enough guarantee for me :)
I really would like to keep it in the site so there is a easy way for us in Austria to compare with last year. Of course we also included the wlm-org-piwik.
You can keep both of them. They seem to be working fine. It may be interesting to compare if the two installs happen to provide different results.
If we could get a login for the org piwik I can try to export and import the data from last year there too - however most probably this would make more sense to be done in October.
You should have received a login. Ask Elke for one.
Best regards
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Platonides platonides@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.wlmpanama.org.pa/ Bad: Embeds javascript from widgets.givealink.com and image from a0.twimg.com
Hi, I think we are now clean from all evil third-party URLs, could you check and add us to Central Notice if so? Thanks in advance.
David E. Narvaez
Hi David, no worries--you are added to the CentralNotice already and the banners will be up at midnight local time in Panama.
Tomasz
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