Dear colleagues,
First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. <- What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for the help!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope,
Thank you for your support,
Matej Grochal (Jetam)
Hi,
if you're able to have everything in order before that moment I could possibly live with it. However, you should have all business in order before then (this is not to be underestimated at such short notice), including prizes (no prizes is an option too, although highly unfortunate) and jury.
However, I would be quite against having the finishing date of Israel. Israel is here a strong exception because the hebrew calendar system is different than ours, and newyear starts at Sept 14. This does leave them with an extremely short time to run jury results. Having Slovakia with a shifted timeline too, would be highly unfortunate. Also, this would mean you would have to disqualify all images uploaded so far (you mentioned 100 accidental uploads?). So *if* you're able to join, I strongly prefer you would still end at September 30. I know this doesn't sound nicely, but otherwise things become very confusing.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/13 Matej Grochal ggrosi48@gmail.com
Dear colleagues,
First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. <- What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for the help!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope,
Thank you for your support,
Matej Grochal (Jetam)
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Well, if my opinion counts, I'd rather let them run for a month (thus ending the Oct 14th. That way nobody is hurt, I believe, it's just a matter of how fast they can gather 1) the database 2) the website 3) the juri and, eventually, 4) the prizes.
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year?
-NT
Em 12-09-2012 23:20, Lodewijk escreveu:
Hi,
if you're able to have everything in order before that moment I could possibly live with it. However, you should have all business in order before then (this is not to be underestimated at such short notice), including prizes (no prizes is an option too, although highly unfortunate) and jury.
However, I would be quite against having the finishing date of Israel. Israel is here a strong exception because the hebrew calendar system is different than ours, and newyear starts at Sept 14. This does leave them with an extremely short time to run jury results. Having Slovakia with a shifted timeline too, would be highly unfortunate. Also, this would mean you would have to disqualify all images uploaded so far (you mentioned 100 accidental uploads?). So *if* you're able to join, I strongly prefer you would still end at September 30. I know this doesn't sound nicely, but otherwise things become very confusing.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/13 Matej Grochal <ggrosi48@gmail.com mailto:ggrosi48@gmail.com>
Dear colleagues, First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. <- What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for the help!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope, Thank you for your support, Matej Grochal (Jetam) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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I want to congratulate the Slovak people and encourage them to work for WLM 2012. Yes, it is late, but with a lot of work you can do something cool. The thoughest part is the monument list and you have it already. Maybe you can have a small contest in 15 days, without prices or advertisment and a jury of 3 or 4 wikipedians to choose the 10 nominees for the international contest. What is the worst thing that can happen? You'll get a hundred of photographies that doesn't exist currently on Wikipedia and if there is a amazing pic from Slovakia, it will have the same opportunity to win the first prize.
If you need any help -besides translating or speaking Slovak-, just ask me. Good luck guys! Better later than never!
Osmar Valdebenito G.
2012/9/12 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Well, if my opinion counts, I'd rather let them run for a month (thus ending the Oct 14th. That way nobody is hurt, I believe, it's just a matter of how fast they can gather 1) the database 2) the website 3) the juri and, eventually, 4) the prizes.
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year?
-NT
Em 12-09-2012 23:20, Lodewijk escreveu:
Hi,
if you're able to have everything in order before that moment I could possibly live with it. However, you should have all business in order before then (this is not to be underestimated at such short notice), including prizes (no prizes is an option too, although highly unfortunate) and jury.
However, I would be quite against having the finishing date of Israel. Israel is here a strong exception because the hebrew calendar system is different than ours, and newyear starts at Sept 14. This does leave them with an extremely short time to run jury results. Having Slovakia with a shifted timeline too, would be highly unfortunate. Also, this would mean you would have to disqualify all images uploaded so far (you mentioned 100 accidental uploads?). So *if* you're able to join, I strongly prefer you would still end at September 30. I know this doesn't sound nicely, but otherwise things become very confusing.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/13 Matej Grochal <ggrosi48@gmail.com mailto:ggrosi48@gmail.com>
Dear colleagues, First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. <- What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for thehelp!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope,
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I think Israel won't begin with the upload period until the September 14 and end October 15, may be they can time their upload period with that too.
Roel WLM Philippines
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Osmar Valdebenito <osmar@wikimediachile.cl
wrote:
I want to congratulate the Slovak people and encourage them to work for WLM 2012. Yes, it is late, but with a lot of work you can do something cool. The thoughest part is the monument list and you have it already. Maybe you can have a small contest in 15 days, without prices or advertisment and a jury of 3 or 4 wikipedians to choose the 10 nominees for the international contest. What is the worst thing that can happen? You'll get a hundred of photographies that doesn't exist currently on Wikipedia and if there is a amazing pic from Slovakia, it will have the same opportunity to win the first prize.
If you need any help -besides translating or speaking Slovak-, just ask me. Good luck guys! Better later than never!
Osmar Valdebenito G.
2012/9/12 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Well, if my opinion counts, I'd rather let them run for a month (thus ending the Oct 14th. That way nobody is hurt, I believe, it's just a matter of how fast they can gather 1) the database 2) the website 3) the juri and, eventually, 4) the prizes.
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year?
-NT
Em 12-09-2012 23:20, Lodewijk escreveu:
Hi,
if you're able to have everything in order before that moment I could possibly live with it. However, you should have all business in order before then (this is not to be underestimated at such short notice), including prizes (no prizes is an option too, although highly unfortunate) and jury.
However, I would be quite against having the finishing date of Israel. Israel is here a strong exception because the hebrew calendar system is different than ours, and newyear starts at Sept 14. This does leave them with an extremely short time to run jury results. Having Slovakia with a shifted timeline too, would be highly unfortunate. Also, this would mean you would have to disqualify all images uploaded so far (you mentioned 100 accidental uploads?). So *if* you're able to join, I strongly prefer you would still end at September 30. I know this doesn't sound nicely, but otherwise things become very confusing.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/13 Matej Grochal <ggrosi48@gmail.com mailto:ggrosi48@gmail.com>
Dear colleagues, First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. <- What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for thehelp!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope,
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:51:58 +0100, Nuno Tavares wrote:
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year?
-NT
Last year Russia started on Sep 15 indeed but they were only running for 15 days. Hungary started on Sep 15 and were running for a full month, but they had this somehow planned before (like Israel this year).
Cheers Yaroslav
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ruwrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:51:58 +0100, Nuno Tavares wrote:
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year?
-NT
Last year Russia started on Sep 15 indeed but they were only running for 15 days. Hungary started on Sep 15 and were running for a full month, but they had this somehow planned before (like Israel this year).
Cheers Yaroslav
Hungary was in a similar situation last year, and we decided that the national contest run between 21 September and 21 October, but the international contest ended on 30 September and the 10 nominated pictures for the international jury was selected from the first two weeks period.
Could you please point me out where is the Slovak monuments list on Wikipedia?
Samat
Hi Samat, the slovak list you can find out of the navigationbars of http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoznam_kult%C3%BArnych_pamiatok_na_Slovensku
the corresponding lists in the german wikipedia you can find unter http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denkmalgesch%C3%BCtzte_Objekte_in_der_Slowakei
both of wikipedias are ablo to upload for WLM
regards Karl
Am 13.09.2012 19:14, schrieb Samat:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod@mccme.ru mailto:putevod@mccme.ru> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:51:58 +0100, Nuno Tavares wrote: I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year? -NT Last year Russia started on Sep 15 indeed but they were only running for 15 days. Hungary started on Sep 15 and were running for a full month, but they had this somehow planned before (like Israel this year). Cheers YaroslavHungary was in a similar situation last year, and we decided that the national contest run between 21 September and 21 October, but the international contest ended on 30 September and the 10 nominated pictures for the international jury was selected from the first two weeks period.
Could you please point me out where is the Slovak monuments list on Wikipedia?
Samat
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The list is here:
http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoznam_kult%C3%BArnych_pamiatok_na_Slovensku
Wizzard
Dne Štvrtok 13 September 2012 19:14:48, Samat napsal(a):
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:51:58 +0100, Nuno Tavares wrote:
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year?
-NT
Last year Russia started on Sep 15 indeed but they were only running for 15 days. Hungary started on Sep 15 and were running for a full month, but they had this somehow planned before (like Israel this year).
Cheers Yaroslav
Hungary was in a similar situation last year, and we decided that the national contest run between 21 September and 21 October, but the international contest ended on 30 September and the 10 nominated pictures for the international jury was selected from the first two weeks period.
Could you please point me out where is the Slovak monuments list on Wikipedia?
Samat
Am 13.09.12 19:14, schrieb Samat:
Hungary was in a similar situation last year, and we decided that the national contest run between 21 September and 21 October, but the international contest ended on 30 September and the 10 nominated pictures for the international jury was selected from the first two weeks period.
Thee latter would be an option, and I would also strongly advise to have Slovakia in the international timeline (i.e. get the finalists from the images up to 30/9). Please consider that we have a very tough timeline with an international jury of external people and a planned calendar printing which cannot wait.
elke
2012/9/13 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Well, if my opinion counts, I'd rather let them run for a month (thus ending the Oct 14th. That way nobody is hurt, I believe, it's just a matter of how fast they can gather 1) the database
They have the lists with some coordinates. Done.
- the website
It may be a bit late to register a domain, so, create a page in sk Wikipedia or Commons for the contest?
- the juri
Wikipedians?
and, eventually, 4) the prizes.
Request for a grant?
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year?
-NT
Em 12-09-2012 23:20, Lodewijk escreveu:
Hi,
if you're able to have everything in order before that moment I could possibly live with it. However, you should have all business in order before then (this is not to be underestimated at such short notice), including prizes (no prizes is an option too, although highly unfortunate) and jury.
However, I would be quite against having the finishing date of Israel. Israel is here a strong exception because the hebrew calendar system is different than ours, and newyear starts at Sept 14. This does leave them with an extremely short time to run jury results. Having Slovakia with a shifted timeline too, would be highly unfortunate. Also, this would mean you would have to disqualify all images uploaded so far (you mentioned 100 accidental uploads?). So *if* you're able to join, I strongly prefer you would still end at September 30. I know this doesn't sound nicely, but otherwise things become very confusing.
Best, Lodewijk
2012/9/13 Matej Grochal <ggrosi48@gmail.com mailto:ggrosi48@gmail.com>
Dear colleagues, First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. <- What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for thehelp!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope,
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Jury will be from Wikipedians outside from SK (so there are not a selfjury) WMAT are fix and other from wiki-de and cz will be asked
The most importants parts of website will be translated from wiki-SK the biggest part will relayed to CZ, because, this will be understand from the people too.
The registration and Hosting will organized with help from WMAT
open are the prizes and the finish at this moment
regards Karl
Am 13.09.2012 10:42, schrieb emijrp:
2012/9/13 Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>
Well, if my opinion counts, I'd rather let them run for a month (thus ending the Oct 14th. That way nobody is hurt, I believe, it's just a matter of how fast they can gather 1) the databaseThey have the lists with some coordinates. Done.
2) the websiteIt may be a bit late to register a domain, so, create a page in sk Wikipedia or Commons for the contest?
3) the juriWikipedians?
and, eventually, 4) the prizes.Request for a grant?
I just learned about Israeli exception, so I really don't see the issue why shouldn't SK do the same... wasn't Russia 2011 raised with similar delay, last year? -NT Em 12-09-2012 23:20, Lodewijk escreveu: Hi, if you're able to have everything in order before that moment I could possibly live with it. However, you should have all business in order before then (this is not to be underestimated at such short notice), including prizes (no prizes is an option too, although highly unfortunate) and jury. However, I would be quite against having the finishing date of Israel. Israel is here a strong exception because the hebrew calendar system is different than ours, and newyear starts at Sept 14. This does leave them with an extremely short time to run jury results. Having Slovakia with a shifted timeline too, would be highly unfortunate. Also, this would mean you would have to disqualify all images uploaded so far (you mentioned 100 accidental uploads?). So *if* you're able to join, I strongly prefer you would still end at September 30. I know this doesn't sound nicely, but otherwise things become very confusing. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/13 Matej Grochal <ggrosi48@gmail.com <mailto:ggrosi48@gmail.com> <mailto:ggrosi48@gmail.com <mailto:ggrosi48@gmail.com>>> Dear colleagues, First of all, thank you for the feedback. Joining in with Israel in terms of the timeline seems like a do-able option if we pushed the starting date further a bit. <- What would be the hard limits on that? The infrastructre is getting built as we speak (thank you for the help!) Our thinking is that it is better to take this oportunity and not to wait until 2013. WLM and the Wiki family is, after all, a project of hope, Thank you for your support, Matej Grochal (Jetam) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org-- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT http://code.google.com/p/avbot/ | StatMediaWiki http://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es | WikiEvidens http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/ | WikiPapers http://wikipapers.referata.com | WikiTeam http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/ Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
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I'm not enthusiastic about you doing late, I'm totally against any other countries finishing late.
Maarten
Hello together, no fear, we concluded that we began at 1. sept and are ending like all the other at 30. september. If there less photo, so should it be an it was an experiance more. ;-)
regards Karl
On 13/09/12 22:39, Karl Gruber wrote:
Hello together, no fear, we concluded that we began at 1. sept and are ending like all the other at 30. september. If there less photo, so should it be an it was an experiance more. ;-)
regards Karl
That seems indeed the simplest solution. Just to clarify, you're participating from 2012-09-01 00:00 CEST to 2012-09-30 23:59 CEST, ie. 2012-08-31 22:00:00 UTC to 2012-09-30 21:59:59 UTC, right?
Plase tell us when it should be publicised.
Hello together, who is able to set us the banner to the http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:WikiProjekt_Wiki_miluje_pamiatky provisional and the link on the international page of links on http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/
many thanks in advance Karl
I know it's very late through legal causes, but now the slovak domain for http://wikilovesmonuments.sk is running too. Perhaps it's possible, that somebody can change the links with http://wikilovesmonuments.org. Many thanks for the help. regards Karl
done :)
2012/9/28 Karl Gruber karl@wb-gruber.at
I know it's very late through legal causes, but now the slovak domain for http://wikilovesmonuments.sk is running too. Perhaps it's possible, that somebody can change the links with http://wikilovesmonuments.org. Many thanks for the help. regards Karl
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