Hi all,
This small message to present you the web application we are developing for the Wiki Loves Monuments Swiss contest. You can reach it at : http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ch .
Main features: - displays the full list of items per canton (Swiss division), with indication of the ones having already pictures or not - allow registered people to "reserve" an item, i.e. to indicate willingness to take a picture of the item - allow registered people to link a photo (uploaded on Commons of course) with the corresponding Item - displays already existing photos on Commons per item - ability for a user to download KML files of all reserved item, all items for a canton or all items without pictures for a canton
Currently, the tool is only available in English and French. Italian and German version should follow very soon next week.
Feedback, comments and ideas welcome !
For the Swiss team, Nico
Hi all !
2011/4/8 Manoillon manoillon@gmail.com:
Feedback, comments and ideas welcome !
That is absolutly genial !
Benoît
oups I have answer on the wrong mailing list!! :-D
charles
Le 8 avril 2011 16:46, Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr a écrit :
Hi all !
2011/4/8 Manoillon manoillon@gmail.com:
Feedback, comments and ideas welcome !
That is absolutly genial !
Benoît
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Very *very* nice! I wish I had that cosmetic skill!
Some of the features were on my wishlist, PERFECT.
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
Benoît
2011/4/8 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt:
Very *very* nice! I wish I had that cosmetic skill!
Some of the features were on my wishlist, PERFECT.
2011/4/8 Benoît Evellin benoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr:
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
Benoît
It's under CC-by-SA but it should be clear if all countries will follow the same "framework" to organize the event.
Ilario
I'd rather share a framework than don't. I find it a waste of time each chapter reinvent the wheel.
This is the best "bundle" of working things I've seen so far (we have our own, far uglier :).
Manoillon, can you share the database schema and files?
-NT
On 08-04-2011 17:25, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
2011/4/8 Benoît Evellinbenoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr:
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
Benoît
It's under CC-by-SA but it should be clear if all countries will follow the same "framework" to organize the event.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
I can, of course, but please give me some more days. Right now, the code is half French, half ugly.. I need a bit of time to clean it before sharing !
Nico
Le samedi 9 avril 2011, Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt a écrit :
I'd rather share a framework than don't. I find it a waste of time each chapter reinvent the wheel.
This is the best "bundle" of working things I've seen so far (we have our own, far uglier :).
Manoillon, can you share the database schema and files?
-NT
On 08-04-2011 17:25, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
2011/4/8 Benoît Evellinbenoit.evellin@wikimedia.fr:
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
Benoît
It's under CC-by-SA but it should be clear if all countries will follow the same "framework" to organize the event.
Ilario
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hi everyone,
Op 8-4-2011 18:19, Benoît Evellin schreef:
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
I rather have a central place to work on this than every chapter inventing the wheel over and over again. There's already a dedicated account for this at the toolserver: "erfgoed" (Dutch for heritage). Please join this project so we can work together. I wouldn't like to have this turn into some sort of pissing contest. More info at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Tools
Op 9-4-2011 13:29, Manoillon schreef:
I can, of course, but please give me some more days. Right now, the code is half French, half ugly.. I need a bit of time to clean it before sharing !
Just share it. Code is always ugly and everyone always wants to clean it up ;-)
Maarten
Maarten,
Very sincerily, I don't see it like a pissing contest, but rather an effort of those, to which this is the first time (at least WMPT is), to have something in place as sooner as possible. I suggest we assume good faith from everybody...
I actually find Manoillon a very good start, as I still didn't see any "bundle".
In the end, the longest part is to develop the logic, not to merge the code where-ever. This means there should be a place to test (the logic) before. However, I'd say the DB schema would ease merging the code a lot, so I'd suggest we all start from it, even if we have to extend it..
It would be nice if there was a compilation of all the tools available already, which are being done or fixed, and maybe who's doing what...?
-NT
On 09-04-2011 14:32, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi everyone,
Op 8-4-2011 18:19, Benoît Evellin schreef:
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
I rather have a central place to work on this than every chapter inventing the wheel over and over again. There's already a dedicated account for this at the toolserver: "erfgoed" (Dutch for heritage). Please join this project so we can work together. I wouldn't like to have this turn into some sort of pissing contest. More info at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Tools
Op 9-4-2011 13:29, Manoillon schreef:
I can, of course, but please give me some more days. Right now, the code is half French, half ugly.. I need a bit of time to clean it before sharing !
Just share it. Code is always ugly and everyone always wants to clean it up ;-)
Maarten
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
I have been recently (today!) working on the API explained at the tools page (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Tools). I hope to have it ready soon. I'm trying to make it as exportable as possible, with many formats: HTML, XML, KML, JSON... That way we won't reinvent the wheel and tooling would be international. The applications for WLM CH and WLM FR or whatever could be shared, thus making it more effective.
Plus, as said before, it could be great if a framework to show the list could be done and be common to all websites. Maybe exporting to a specific HTML and then applying some JavaScript magic?
Joan Creus.
2011/4/9 Nuno Tavares nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
Maarten,
Very sincerily, I don't see it like a pissing contest, but rather an effort of those, to which this is the first time (at least WMPT is), to have something in place as sooner as possible. I suggest we assume good faith from everybody...
I actually find Manoillon a very good start, as I still didn't see any "bundle".
In the end, the longest part is to develop the logic, not to merge the code where-ever. This means there should be a place to test (the logic) before. However, I'd say the DB schema would ease merging the code a lot, so I'd suggest we all start from it, even if we have to extend it..
It would be nice if there was a compilation of all the tools available already, which are being done or fixed, and maybe who's doing what...?
-NT
On 09-04-2011 14:32, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi everyone,
Op 8-4-2011 18:19, Benoît Evellin schreef:
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
I rather have a central place to work on this than every chapter inventing the wheel over and over again. There's already a dedicated account for this at the toolserver: "erfgoed" (Dutch for heritage). Please join this project so we can work together. I wouldn't like to have this turn into some sort of pissing contest. More info at
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Tools
Op 9-4-2011 13:29, Manoillon schreef:
I can, of course, but please give me some more days. Right now, the code is half French, half ugly.. I need a bit of time to clean it before sharing !
Just share it. Code is always ugly and everyone always wants to clean it up ;-)
Maarten
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hi Nuno,
Op 9-4-2011 20:45, Nuno Tavares schreef:
Maarten,
Very sincerily, I don't see it like a pissing contest, but rather an effort of those, to which this is the first time (at least WMPT is), to have something in place as sooner as possible. I suggest we assume good faith from everybody...
I guess you either misread my remark or the language barrier is acting up. I'm not saying it's a pissing contest, I'm just saying that I would hate to see it turn into one :-)
I actually find Manoillon a very good start, as I still didn't see any "bundle".
In the end, the longest part is to develop the logic, not to merge the code where-ever. This means there should be a place to test (the logic) before. However, I'd say the DB schema would ease merging the code a lot, so I'd suggest we all start from it, even if we have to extend it..
The current database layouts can be found at https://fisheye.toolserver.org/browse/erfgoed/erfgoedbot/sql , https://fisheye.toolserver.org/browse/erfgoed/erfgoedbot/sql/create_table_mo... is probably most important. At http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Monument... I'm trying to keep track of the layout of the database.
It would be nice if there was a compilation of all the tools available already, which are being done or fixed, and maybe who's doing what...?
That would be http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Tools . Please add *anything* you have/can find.
Maarten
-NT
On 09-04-2011 14:32, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi everyone,
Op 8-4-2011 18:19, Benoît Evellin schreef:
Do we try to make a global and unified system like Manoillon's one, or each country have to made his own ?
Maybe we have decided of it earlier, but I don't manage to remember...
I rather have a central place to work on this than every chapter inventing the wheel over and over again. There's already a dedicated account for this at the toolserver: "erfgoed" (Dutch for heritage). Please join this project so we can work together. I wouldn't like to have this turn into some sort of pissing contest. More info at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Tools
Op 9-4-2011 13:29, Manoillon schreef:
I can, of course, but please give me some more days. Right now, the code is half French, half ugly.. I need a bit of time to clean it before sharing !
Just share it. Code is always ugly and everyone always wants to clean it up ;-)
Maarten
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Manoillon,
Great job.
Two suggestions: 1. it seems to allow sql injection
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ch/detail.php?id=-1%20union%20select%201,conca...
2. it leaks server information (error_reporting)
Hope it helps
-NT
On 08-04-2011 14:25, Manoillon wrote:
Hi all, This small message to present you the web application we are developing for the Wiki Loves Monuments Swiss contest. You can reach it at : http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ch http://www.wikilovesmonuments.ch/ . Main features:
- displays the full list of items per canton (Swiss division), with
indication of the ones having already pictures or not
- allow registered people to "reserve" an item, i.e. to indicate
willingness to take a picture of the item
- allow registered people to link a photo (uploaded on Commons of
course) with the corresponding Item
- displays already existing photos on Commons per item
- ability for a user to download KML files of all reserved item, all
items for a canton or all items without pictures for a canton Currently, the tool is only available in English and French. Italian and German version should follow very soon next week. Feedback, comments and ideas welcome ! For the Swiss team, Nico
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org