OK, thank you. Indeed it is quiet easy to correct ID if the monument is well-known (as in my first examplehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%BC_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BC.jpg), but much more difficult when it is not. Moreover, sometimes users make photo of objects that does not seem to be officially recognized as heritage monument at all (e.g. this onehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D0%97%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BA_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%B2%27%D1%97%D0%B7%D0%B4%D1%96_%D0%B2_%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BA%D1%83..jpg). How should we deal in this case?

Regards, Andrij

2012/9/3 André Costa lokal_profil@hotmail.com

I found that writing a comment in the id field label of the upload wizard drastically reduced the number of incorrect id's last year. See e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-se-bbr-...

So assuming your id's always take a similar format you could just say something like "should be numbers and look like XX-XXX-XXXX"

Andre / Lokal_Profil

On 3 September 2012 10:41, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:

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On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:38:27 +0300, Андрій Бондаренко wrote:

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Hi, everyone,

Recently I noticed that some participants do not place ID of a monument correctly. For example in this photo [1] ID is marked as "Ship_sunk_sev [2]", but it is not correct. Correct number of this monument (if I dont mistake it is this one [3]) must be 85-002-0003 (according to our list [4]). Imho this participant was too lazy to

find a correct ID and wrote something by hart :)) though most of our participants are accurate with ID

What is recommended to do in this case?

Just to correct an ID. If you notice that one participant systematically fails to provide a correct ID, they may require some explanations on their talk page.

Cheers Yaroslav

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2012/9/3 André Costa lokal_profil@hotmail.com

I found that writing a comment in the id field label of the upload wizard drastically reduced the number of incorrect id's last year. See e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-se-bbr-...

So assuming your id's always take a similar format you could just say something like "should be numbers and look like XX-XXX-XXXX"

I'd like to do this to the colombian wizard. Can someone who can edit https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-co-id/e... help me with that? The new text would be "Código del monumento (ver las listas; son 5 dígitos: XX-XXX)".

Thanks.

On 03/09/12 20:55, Racso wrote:

2012/9/3 André Costa:

I found that writing a comment in the id field label of the upload
wizard drastically reduced the number of incorrect id's last year.
See e.g.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-se-bbr-id/en

So assuming your id's always take a similar format you could just
say something like "should be numbers and look like XX-XXX-XXXX"

I'd like to do this to the colombian wizard. Can someone who can edit https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-campaigns-wlm-co-id/e... help me with that? The new text would be "Código del monumento (ver las listas; son 5 dígitos: XX-XXX)".

Thanks.

Note that some people will make up the identifiers. People making a honest mistake in the id lead to errors simple to fix. The most common 'mistake' last year was people providing "XX-XXX - XXXX" instead of "XX-XXX-XXXX" (the way we expected it). Very simple to fix, it was even coded in the bot. OTOH people who made up identifiers led to unfixable entries. I asked some about the list they took the identifier from (hey, maybe they even found a new heritage monuments list?). No answer, of course.

This year I used in the examples a fake id made up from consecutive digits, but also ensuring there was no monument with that id assigned, to easily spot fraudsters. Well, or simply dumb people :P http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/ssn/misused.html

Racso, if you don't have such id, I'd use instead "(ver las listas, por ejemplo: 12-345)". You provide the id format with an example, and people just wanting to bypass the form get an identifier to pass it (which we can automately disqualify).

Regards

Changed XX-XXX to 12-345 in Spanish and English labels

On 4 September 2012 05:44, Racso racso@colombia.com wrote:

2012/9/3 Platonides platonides@gmail.com

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Racso, if you don't have such id, I'd use instead "(ver las listas, por ejemplo: 12-345)". You provide the id format with an example, and people just wanting to bypass the form get an identifier to pass it (which we can automately disqualify).

I think that's a good idea. Can you please change the label for me, as I cannot do it? Thanks! (btw, 12-345 is fine as a fake ID).

Racso

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