Hi Platonides, thanks for the questions. We have received three very simple drafts of the layout last week, and as far as I remember, it's going to be very similar to the one we used last year (see <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011_calendar_(design_file).pdf>). We have brought up the subject of weeks being culture-dependant to the printing company (which will be also responsible for preparing the layout) together with other requirements (licencing and language-neutrality) that we gathered last year. I guess we will be able to share a next version of the draft with the wider community as soon as we get it from the printing company -- there isn't anything special to comment in those three drafts we received, and I think it'd be better to wait and see how the design will evolve, and then to comment on it. Thanks, -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]]

On 23/09/12 20:36, WereSpielChequers wrote: +1. It is barely readable at 1:1. It doesn't need to be big, but neither so small. The names are at the left of "CC-BY-SA 3.0" in that last page. No idea what those // are for. For titles maybe, but I don't know why they wouldn't have been included. In my opinion the author and CC-BY-SA 3.0 could also be present at the image page. The last page could contain and a link to the each description page in addition to the names and CC-BY-SA 3.0 A link to what the CC-BY-SA 3.0 is, would also be good (remember that 4.b.I requisite).

On 23/09/12 23:07, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote: Why not? We have people from all those countries. It wouldn't be hard that each local team translates the caption of 12 photos to the local language. It would be nice to have all the local winners translated, but translating the captions of 340 photos may be too much. :) It's strange, I expected that given the overlap of some languages we would have less languages than countries, not more. Yes, it could be painful, but providing access to the original files is the only way to allow properly reuse of the photos. An option would be to link to a central page instead of each of the images. «You can view and download the design of this calendar and each of the individual photos at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_calendar » In summary, ask your local chapter to buy N more calendars for you. :)

On 24/09/12 00:02, Paul Selitskas wrote: They could be added too, but probably not as the only way, given that not everyone is able to read them.

Hi all, responding to several points at once: * For the license stuff: I suggest to just take the graphical CC BY-SA logo that Creative Commons provides, and show that at the front page in a corner. * Let me just say 'no' to translating everything into all languages. That is simply a journey I refuse to go onto. It would require a huge investment of time from both translators and the coordinators. Lets do the thing that worked well last year: short description in both the local language of the monument and in English. (with exceptions for complicated regions adding another language). Perfection is the enemy of progress: we're on a very tight time schedule once we get to the jury results. We don't have any resources to hunt after people, and any compromise is going to have disadvantages too. If/when we do an online exhibition we could/should do this though. * For those that really really like, we have a few 2012 calendars left in the WMNL office. I'm sure if you give a proper donation, you can get a few ;-) (contact Sandra Rientjes for that). For 2013 I think Barbara will come later with a more detailed update on what is possible and what isn't. This was still under discussion - the publisher did consider providing calendars for public sale. I'm not sure if the WMF is going to order calendars - but I suggest you contact them directly if you want to make that happen. * Providing URL's to the original file is not required. What I can imagine is that the file description in the last page contains the file names - but then that is also barely usable (how well are you able to copy the hebrew characters?). If you want to reuse the images, just go to the Wikilovesmonuments website or Wikimedia Commons - both will contain a full overview of all winning pictures. Lets not make things more complicated than necessary. It is not a legal requirement, and lets not fool ourselves: anyone with a little bit of google experience can type 'wiki loves monuments winners' into google and will find them. * On QR codes: I know some people really fancy them... personally I think that they wouldn't really look well in the existing designs at least on the photo pages. Again: lets not make the process more complicated (these codes need to be created, pages can't be moved, weird characters etc. - all potential errors and problems giving me a headache). People can find the page with the winning pictures quite easily. If we add everything we *can* add, it will be overkill. Anyway, thanks for the feedback. While some of it may not be implementable, it is still appreciated. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/24 Barbara Fischer &lt;barbara.fischer(a)wikimedia.de&gt;

On 24 September 2012 12:05, Andre Koopal &lt;andre(a)molens.org&gt; wrote: This is definitely possible, and I cannot see a reason not to implement that; thanks for the suggestion :-) As mailing lists in general are a bad place to gather ideas, I went ahead and created a simple pad for the brainstorming; feel free to add your ideas at <http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/WLM-2012-calendar>. Thanks -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]]