So that would be similar to last year's situation, right? Last year the
theme was GLAM, and only a tiny fraction of buildings in use by GLAM are
listed as monuments - in some countries even less than in others.
It does make it more important to communicate the definition very clearly
though. We should make clear that monuments can only participate in this
special category if they are *both* listed as a monument (with the local
definition), as well as related to the first world war.
Nicolas: I think you have a good point with regards to Freedom of Panorama!
When talking about specially designed memorials in non-FoP countries, that
would potentially indeed be a problem. Not sure if it would be a huge
problem, but it is indeed unfortunate.
Lodewijk
2013/7/23 Bas vb <bas_v_b(a)hotmail.com>
Maarten Deneckere, Allmost every war monument in
Flanders is indeed a
listed monuments (at least in my small sample each municipality had around
5 of them). But in Wallonie the situation is very different, in the 12
municipalities I've checked only one of them had a war memorial listed.
So that is the biggest problem imo Lodewijk. There is really a lot of
these war memorials out there but only in some regions these are in fact
listed monuments.
Mvg,
Bas
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From: lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:23:56 +0200
To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Europeana Loves Wiki Loves Monuments
2013 edition
Hiya all,
thanks for the feedback. Of course no topic is going to be perfectly
distributed through countries, that goes equally for GLAM and art nouveau.
However, please note that the definition is pretty wide here. Monuments
(listed buildings, whatever) *related to* WW1. That could also include a
building that had a special function during WW1 (War office?), or someone
very relevant to WW1 lived there around that time. It can be honor fields,
grave yards, memorials for the unknown soldier (if listed) etc. Obviously
countries like Germany and France will have more heritage on this than the
Netherlands or Thailand.
While there are some drawbacks, are there also big problems that you see
with this topic?
Best,
Lodewijk
2013/7/23 Maarten Deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com>
Hey all,
I think it's a very good idea to give special attentation to monuments
from the World Wars. In the two past editions of the competition in
Belgium, three winners were related to the First World War:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2009-11-12_Ieper_MenenPoort.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Militaire_begraafplaats_Koksijde2.JPG
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Henri_Chapelle_Friedhof_2.jpg
I did some checks in Belgium, and all monuments I know (even the smaller,
local ones) are listed as a monument.
Regards, Maarten
2013/7/23 Bas vb <basvb_wikipedia(a)live.nl>
Hi all,
Indeed France and Belgium both have many of these monuments, but I believe
that in France a lot of these wont be monument historique. Due to the fact
that most of their monuments are really really old and special. (there are
ca 60.000 monuments in France but there are also that number in both
Flanders and the Netherlands, this means that to become a monument is
easier in the latter two and therefore less special buildings are
monuments). The same issue might hold for Wallonie. For other countries I
don't know how the situation is, so this point is a little bit focused on
only some of the countries.
So there might be a lot of these monuments (in every small city) but a lot
of them wont be eligible for the local contest, how to deal with that?
Mvg,
Bas
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:10:47 +0200
From: jane023(a)gmail.com
To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Europeana Loves Wiki Loves Monuments
2013
edition
Àlex,
That is great news! I would love to see more WWI monuments and
memorials added (especially since I picnic-lunched at many of them
while on a bike trip through Belgium and France several years ago). It
was amazing to me to see how many small towns in Belgium and France
still have yearly ceremonies for WWI memorials, even though no one is
left to tell the stories anymore first hand. While munching my
sandwich I could often read how many men died, and I couldn't figure
out why there were so many names when all I could see around me was a
small street with a few houses. It seemed as though that war really
wiped out centuries of human habitation in some places, so there is no
one left to take pictures and put them on Wikimedia Commons. Maybe
this will help. I have often thought it was too bad I didn't take any
pictures of the monuments, just the pretty countryside, so it will be
fun to see what gets added in the contest.
Jane
2013/7/23, Àlex Hinojo <alexhinojo(a)gmail.com>om>:
> Hi all,
>
> as some of you may know, I'm now also collaborating with Europeana in
their
> Wiki-related projects. I have a couple of
good announcements to share
with
> you:
>
> 1) Again this year, Europeana will be an official partner of Wiki Loves
> Monuments and will sponsor the main prize, as did last year.
>
> 2) Beside of sponsoring main prize, We’ll have a special category
within
> the contest entitled ‘World War I Monuments
and Memorials'.
>
> This category is understood in an inclusive way (all
monuments/memorials
> related to WWI in participating countries)
This category proposal is
> related to another ongoing Europeana project, Europeana 1914-1918 [1]
> designed for collecting memorabilia in digital form from related to
WW1.
> Previous editions of the WLM contest also
had an special Europeana
category
> (GLAM for 2012 [2] and Art Nouveau for 2011
[3]). The contest and jury
> systems for this particular category will be the same one than used on
> previous years, following our KISS principles :) Still not sure about
it
> but probably will manage an online exhibit
like the one Europeana did
for
> Art Nouveau in 2011 [3]
>
>
> We are still drafting all so will be glad to read your comments and
> questions on this.
>
> Best,
>
> Àlex Hinojo
> @kippelboy
>
> [1]
www.europeana1914-1918.eu
> [2]
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GLAM_images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monu…
> [3]
http://exhibitions.europeana.eu/exhibits/show/wiki-loves-art-nouveau
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