Hi,
We actually already published a post on Wikimedia blog about this last year:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/06/19/ukraine-secret-cultural-heritage/ , we also wrote
about this in our WLM photo album (
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWlm_2014_Ukraine.pdf… )
and elsewhere. It is unfortunate that the number of stories dropped from 5 to 3, but we
are still available to provide a 100-word story if needed.
Thanks, Mykola (NickK)
06 квітня 2016, 00:51:08, від "Lodewijk" < lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org >:
Hi,
OK. In total we have 350-400 words. So I propose: - 100 words for 3 stories each - 100
words for a general surrounding explanation.
I propose the following stories: - RU about travelling long distances by photographers -
NL about collecting municipal lists - IT about the struggle with legislation &
permissions
Each story can be 100 words in English, with a few good photos that go with it (not sure
how many we can fit in).
Would that work? Please confirm.
Unfortunately we can't put more stories in! But NickK, it would be great to include
something on the WLM (or Wikimedia) blog! Could I keep the UA story as a backup for this?
It sounds more complicated to explain in 100 words than the NL story, and I like the
geographic diversity
Best, Lodewijk
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Mykola Kozlenko < mycola-k(a)ukr.net > wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
We in Ukraine would be interested to participate, especially because we have just released
a journal about Wiki Loves Monuments for exactly the same audience - monuments
professionals and volunteers - and thus we already have some materials ready (in
Ukrainian).
Probably the most interesting story from us would be about "making our own
lists" - not in the meaning that we are doing original research, but in the meaning
that Ukraine has strictly no cultural heritage register. Instead several hundreds of
institutions maintain their own official lists, from the Ministry of Culture to
municipalities, and they hardly communicate with each other. The process involved sending
requests to all of them, digitising and converting these lists, collaborating with local
historians and museums who sometimes had the necessary lists and even requesting the lists
in the court when a local administration refused to provide them. As a result, we have the
most complete monument lists that ever existed in Ukraine.
If this story does not work, we can also write about the "WLM community" we
have, i.e. people who travel, visit, picture and document monuments during the year and
upload photos of 1000+ monuments in September.
If this corresponds to what you are looking for, please tell us what do we have to
provide.
Thanks, Mykola (NickK) WLM Ukraine
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Від кого: "Lodewijk" < lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org >
Дата: 3 квітня 2016, 19:34:54
Hi,
the target audience would be heritage (monuments) professionals and volunteers. So what we
would probably want to transfer, is enthusiasm for free knowledge, for collaborating with
online movements, for sharing information. So it would be especially nice to share a
story, I think. Not so much describing the whole competition, but taking out one aspect,
and telling a narrative. In Italy, I suspect the story about how all the government
institutions came together to work around silly legislation would be a great story. The
size of Russia and the travelling involved might make a nice story too. I'm a little
less convinced that the 'making our own lists' would come across well, but I
don't know enough about that.
Yaroslav's suggestion for taking 'we have covered everything' might work too,
in several countries. In the Netherlands, I could imagine a story about collecting the
municipal lists (this involved calling them all, and collecting and converting them one by
one).
What other stories do you know about, that we could share?
Best, Lodewijk
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Alexander Tsirlin < altsirlin(a)gmail.com > wrote:
My ideas about WLM in Russia would be:
- no national register of cultural heritage (we are basically making one ourselves, and
it's at least as good as different 'official' registers created over the
years)
- no freedom of panorama for sculptures (see Italy)
- amazing traveling activity of our participants (last year we offered a special
nomination for the maximum number of regions covered; the winner uploaded photos from 31
regions (out of ~85 regions in total), which is quite a lot considering the size of the
country)
There is likely not enough space to mention everything, but you can point me to the topic
that will be most interesting for the European readers.
-Alexander
On 03.04.2016 19:14, Lodewijk wrote:
Hi,
OK, it seems the most interesting would be scenario 3. I have a good idea what the story
in Italy might look like :) Alexander, what would be the story about Russia?
I think a story about Austria might be nice too? Given that it is one of the most
successful countries in terms of coverage?
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Alexander Tsirlin < altsirlin(a)gmail.com > wrote:
Dear Lodewijk,
I can write something about WLM in Russia, but I have to know the size limit and the time
scale.
Best,
Alexander
On 03.04.2016 13:34, Lodewijk wrote:
Hey folks,
it may be possible to publish a 2 page article in Europa Nostra, but the deadline would be
short. Is there anything you'd like to share in such an article? I imagine a few
scenarios:
- 1. Make a piece about WLM in the past years - 2. Make a piece about WLM in 2015, with a
short outlook for 2016. I'm not sure if this would give the best material - 3. Make a
piece showcasing 3-5 national competitions in the wider European region (Council of Europe
- which includes Russia etc) and making it a little more about the national stories.
I personally am a bit in favour of the third, which could let us tell a story about
national competitions, how volunteers play a role etc. But I would need your help! Who
would be able to help write a piece? What would be your favourite approach?
Best, Lodewijk
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