WikiLovesMonuments February 2011

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22 participants
16 discussions

Map creation
by Joan Creus 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

Hi, I'm from the Catalan project, and recently we have been developing lists of monuments (partially by bot, partially by hand). Some of them include coordinates, which would allow us to create maps of monuments They would useful for photographers. But I wonder how to create them. I've got different approaches in my mind, for example: 1. Creating a list of monuments with coordinates for Google Maps, even though I don't know if it's possible. Maybe it could also work with Google Earth. 2. The other way is creating maps with OpenStreetMap and, with a program, add the different locations. You can see an example at http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Joancreus/Location_maps. Unfortunately, this would require thousands of maps to achieve a decent quality, and, depending on the number, many labels couldn't be read. Help would be appreciated from people who worked with the project last year, in the Netherlands, or have other ideas. Thanks a lot, Joan.

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Provoking spolation
by Vicenç Riullop 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

We have encountered an unexpected problem with monuments of Minorca (http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llista_de_monuments_de_Menorca). There are about 1,000 monuments, most of them of Talayotic culture (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talaiotic_Cultura), possibly with an unclear demarcation between the categories of monument and archaeological area, two of the categories defined for Bien de Interés Cultural (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bien_de_Inter% C3% A9s_Cultural). We have contacted with the person in charge of heritage in the island council asking for help to identify them and locate them as the online register only contains the name and little else. His answer is that we must limit to 65 monuments that are accessible to the public. The reason is that most are on private lands and they want to avoid spolation. He recognizes out of the record that most are not monuments. I think they probably lack of protection and I know the islanders are very sensitive that tourists do not invade private lands. As a Wikipedian I can not accept it. The register of monuments is public information, monuments are protected by law, we can not redefine if a monument should be in the arqueological area category and we can not limit the information based on problems or interests of the administration. But from WLM viewpoint, probably it is not appropiate causing problems and perhaps it makes nonsense to suggest participants to go to inaccessible places to take photos of ruins or caves or to suggest them monuments that we can not correctly identify. Moroever, the amount of 65 would be within the Spanish average. I am confused with this. Any suggestions? Vicenç

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Hackathon 2011 in Berlin
by Nicole Ebber 22 Feb '11

22 Feb '11

Hi all, we are planning (still to be confirmed) a Hackathon in Berlin in May and are thinking about bringing the technically challenged and unchallenged monument-lovers together. We could either have WLM as a parallel slot/main topic during the dev meeting or meet a day before. Besides the technical issues we will, of course, also discuss all other important topics and use this as an official kick-off meeting. Therefore it is important that people can all participate from multiple countries If you are interested in joining the event, please provide some input about your preferred dates here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2011#Straw_Poll Thanks, Nicole -- Nicole Ebber Projektmanagerin Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Eisenacher Straße 2 10777 Berlin Tel.: +49 30 219158260 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch freien Zugang zu der Gesamtheit des Wissens der Menschheit hat. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ ****Unterstützen Sie Freies Wissen mit einer SMS. Senden Sie einfach WIKI an 81190. Mit 5 Euro sichern Sie so die Verfügbarkeit und Weiterentwicklung der Wikipedia.**** Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Working on Spain lists
by emijrp 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Hi all; I'm emijrp, a Wikipedia user from Spain. I'm working on the lists of my country. You can see the structure here.[1] I'm not sure how other countries are going to create their lists, but, if my way is useful, it would be great. Regards, emijrp [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011_in_Spai…

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New member
by GoEthe.wiki 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Hi. I am GoEThe, from Wikimedia Portugal. Together with Beria and others, I am helping to organize things for wikilovesmonuments in Portugal. I used to live in Leiden, Holland, during my PhD, but now I live in Denmark. I am currently reading through the project pages on Commons, my next step will be to organize the templates and tables. Will the bot run through all participating wikipedias, or do we have to develop it locally? Best, Gonçalo

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Some questions
by Santiago Navarro Sanz 13 Feb '11

13 Feb '11

Hi! I've asked some questions on Concept talk but nobody has answered them. Millars

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Some early ideas
by wp-denkmalpflege＠gmx.de 13 Feb '11

13 Feb '11

Building up a global Monuments Database with datasets of any country available. Some information like geodata, location, year of construction, picture, official key, source information might be universal and are needed only once for every monument. Other information like the description of the monument should be kept in different languages. For any Wikipedia language a template with placeholders is created. A script can fill the templates with information from the Monuments Database. As the number of monuments is not static and we continously find out better information or take new photos, a web interface allows to change the datasets with new information. A bot can update regularly (once a week) the monument lists in all Wikipedias. Lars -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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Domain names: wikilovesmonuments.tld
by Lodewijk 12 Feb '11

12 Feb '11

Hi all, just as a reminder: if you are seriously thinking about participating Wiki Loves Monuments, I would like to suggest you register the wikilovesmonuments.xx domain. You don't necessarily have to use that to put your website, but at the very least redirect it to your page on Wikimedia Commons or your local wiki. That way nobody else can steal and abuse it, or you can decide later to use it after all. If you want to run a website there (for example, a blog) I understand that Wikimedia Polska is willing to help you out with their toolserver. So... then register it soon! Lodewijk

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Chapters DE, AT, CH contacted
by wp-denkmalpflege＠gmx.de 12 Feb '11

12 Feb '11

The Wikimedia chapters for Germany, Austria and Switzerland are now contacted for support. Lars -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

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New member on the list
by Marc Fontdevila 09 Feb '11

09 Feb '11

Hi, I am Marc Fontdevial or user Mafoso, member of Amical Viquipèdia, WM-CAT to be. As vriullop said in ca.wiki some of us are working to involve viquipedians and partners in the project ... Marc.

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