Thanks very much for the information regarding these videos in Swedish, Basque, and Spanish. I'm impressed by the quality of the recent videos in Basque and Spanish that I watched, to the extent that I understand them. In the past two to three years have I also learned about recently produced instructional videos through publications such as affiliates' reports and *This Month in Education* https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News.
To the extent that I understand the video in Spanish that Dennis linked https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutoriales_WMCL_-_Agregar_referencias.webm, I think that it is very good, so I'm now thinking that I will suggest to WMF that I not create a Spanish version of the video that I am producing, but in the future if there is interest in having instructional videos in Spanish regarding different subjects that are not already covered by existing videos then I may propose creating Spanish versions of videos that I plan for English Wikipedia, Commons, or other projects.
As far as I know, there is no easily accessible catalog of what Wikimedia instructional videos exist. Finding some instructional videos is possible using the Commons category tree and by searching for file names on Commons, but not all videos are easy to find using those methods, and several instructional videos that I found on Commons are outdated. I boldly created a page here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Catalog_of_Wikimedia_instructional_videos for cataloging Wikimedia instructional videos, and I would like to invite people to expand that list, especially for videos which contain current information and have good production quality. Hopefully having a common catalog will help those of us who produce videos to get ideas from watching others' videos, and to consider whether to translate or reuse portions of existing videos. If someone thinks that they have a better idea for cataloging existing Wikimedia instructional videos, or if there is a catalog that already exists, please reply to this thread or contact me off list.
Regarding documenting my process, I am placing notes https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Notes on Meta that are in addition to the grant proposal, the talk page for the grant proposal, and the scripts.
Thanks again for sharing information.
Hello, Can I also contribute by creating video tutorials?
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019, 6:35 am Pine W, wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks very much for the information regarding these videos in Swedish, Basque, and Spanish. I'm impressed by the quality of the recent videos in Basque and Spanish that I watched, to the extent that I understand them. In the past two to three years have I also learned about recently produced instructional videos through publications such as affiliates' reports and *This Month in Education* https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News.
To the extent that I understand the video in Spanish that Dennis linked < https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutoriales_WMCL_-_Agregar_referenc...
,
I think that it is very good, so I'm now thinking that I will suggest to WMF that I not create a Spanish version of the video that I am producing, but in the future if there is interest in having instructional videos in Spanish regarding different subjects that are not already covered by existing videos then I may propose creating Spanish versions of videos that I plan for English Wikipedia, Commons, or other projects.
As far as I know, there is no easily accessible catalog of what Wikimedia instructional videos exist. Finding some instructional videos is possible using the Commons category tree and by searching for file names on Commons, but not all videos are easy to find using those methods, and several instructional videos that I found on Commons are outdated. I boldly created a page here < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_ed...
for cataloging Wikimedia instructional videos, and I would like to invite people to expand that list, especially for videos which contain current information and have good production quality. Hopefully having a common catalog will help those of us who produce videos to get ideas from watching others' videos, and to consider whether to translate or reuse portions of existing videos. If someone thinks that they have a better idea for cataloging existing Wikimedia instructional videos, or if there is a catalog that already exists, please reply to this thread or contact me off list.
Regarding documenting my process, I am placing notes < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_ed...
on Meta that are in addition to the grant proposal, the talk page for the grant proposal, and the scripts.
Thanks again for sharing information.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Hi Abu,
Yes, there are many opportunities to contribute to video tutorials. How you can contribute depends on your available time, interests, and abilities. If you would like to discuss ideas with me, then I request that you write on the talk page here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_... .
Thanks for your interest!
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 3:37 AM MD Abu Siyam mdabusiyam009@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Can I also contribute by creating video tutorials?
Dear wiki-researchers and wiki-education list members (apologies for cross posting)
I am forwarding a call for paper for a one day conference in Paris about Wikipedia (and wikis in general) in social sciences and humanities :
https://anr-collabora.parisnanterre.fr/index.php/2019/02/20/call-for-paper-w...
It's fascinating how diverse these tutorials are, especially that they serve a similar purpose, thank you very much for sharing!
At Wikimedia Israel we have been developing an instructional website in Arabic called Wiki Warsha ويكي ورشة ("wiki workshop"). The tutorials consist of multimedia elements (video, text, images), and are divided into 13 chapters taking into account the particularities of Arabic Wikipedia. The tutorials provide self-learners and new comers with basic information on the following: Wikipedia homepage structure, About Wikipedia articles, Creating an account, Signing with a registered account, Creating a userpage, Writing a new article, Editing an article, Formatting the article, Adding image, Adding internal and external links, Adding references, Adding categories, Request edits approval on Arabic Wikipedia. The choice to make video, text and image tutorials in a website format was made in order ensure access on different devices including smartphones and tablets, and to make the web content accessible to people with disabilities too.
Attaching in the link a sample draft of one of the videos we are working on, Adding images:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zV1CrIpoENpPd1OR4rRgy0QncR-NE1O8/view
In the past, the chapter has developed an interactive courseware in Hebrew which has proved to be successful. The courseware is divided into four chapters: 1) The interface 2) Editing article and userpage 3) Talk and community 4) Adding images. For example, Link: Editing interface https://wikimedia.org.il/wp-content/plugins/sgc-wikimedia-elearning//Standing/Wikimedia_UNIT2_ver5/index.html (Hebrew)
*Bekriah*
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:35 AM Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks very much for the information regarding these videos in Swedish, Basque, and Spanish. I'm impressed by the quality of the recent videos in Basque and Spanish that I watched, to the extent that I understand them. In the past two to three years have I also learned about recently produced instructional videos through publications such as affiliates' reports and *This Month in Education* https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News.
To the extent that I understand the video in Spanish that Dennis linked < https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutoriales_WMCL_-_Agregar_referenc...
,
I think that it is very good, so I'm now thinking that I will suggest to WMF that I not create a Spanish version of the video that I am producing, but in the future if there is interest in having instructional videos in Spanish regarding different subjects that are not already covered by existing videos then I may propose creating Spanish versions of videos that I plan for English Wikipedia, Commons, or other projects.
As far as I know, there is no easily accessible catalog of what Wikimedia instructional videos exist. Finding some instructional videos is possible using the Commons category tree and by searching for file names on Commons, but not all videos are easy to find using those methods, and several instructional videos that I found on Commons are outdated. I boldly created a page here < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_ed...
for cataloging Wikimedia instructional videos, and I would like to invite people to expand that list, especially for videos which contain current information and have good production quality. Hopefully having a common catalog will help those of us who produce videos to get ideas from watching others' videos, and to consider whether to translate or reuse portions of existing videos. If someone thinks that they have a better idea for cataloging existing Wikimedia instructional videos, or if there is a catalog that already exists, please reply to this thread or contact me off list.
Regarding documenting my process, I am placing notes < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_ed...
on Meta that are in addition to the grant proposal, the talk page for the grant proposal, and the scripts.
Thanks again for sharing information.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Hi Bekriah,
Thanks for sharing the Arabic and Hebrew resources. Would you please add the those resources to this catalog of tutorials https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Catalog_of_Wikimedia_instructional_videos? My impression from my brief look is that the Hebrew tutorials use JavaScript instead of video, but the goal is similar to instructional videos, so I think that adding those tutorials to the catalog would be good. There is a section in the catalog for tutorials which are in development and not finished. I added a column to the tables to indicate whether a tutorial is a video, interactive, or both.
Below are some additional comments that I have regarding the possibility of adapting the video that I am producing for diverse language editions of Wikipedia.
For the video that I am currently developing regarding referencing with VisualEditor, I am keeping translatability and accessibility in mind. I am hoping that the subtitles can be translated into non-English languages, or at least languages which Google Translate understands well, with relative ease.
The images and animations in each language edition of the video would ideally be in the same language as the subtitles. Changing images and animations will likely require more time than translating the subtitles. My current pilot project in English will almost certainly finish this month. After the end of this pilot project, I might request funding for a full adaptation of the video into a non-English language, and if that goes well then I could request additional funding for additional adaptations.
I know enough Spanish that I could probably adapt English Wikipedia videos for Spanish Wikipedia with a relatively modest level of help from native Spanish speakers, but I would need more support for languages which I don't know well such as Romanian or French, and even more help for languages which are written in diverse alphabets and which Google Translate translates poorly or not at all. I would like to help with adaptations for diverse Wikipedia language communities.
I am mindful that an issue when adapting instructional videos for diverse Wikipedia language editions is that there may be variations in policies and workflows. I would want to account for those variations when creating adaptations of videos.
At this time I can't promise that this English language video will be adapted for additional language editions of Wikipedia to use, but I think that there is a good possibility that if the English version of this video is well accepted and used by the English Wikipedia community, then the video may be adapted for more language editions of Wikipedia. :)
@Bekriah, that is very exciting. From time to time we have native Arabic speakers attend our events and have wondered how we could offer them instruction in Arabic. We would appreciate any further information you have on pending projects (or by email if it's not public or of general interest to this list).
@Pine, it has been suggested to me that your original project might have been slowed because of the complexity of not only the instruction itself, but also knowledge about how to make an instructional video. There is supposed to be an online course on making instructional videos, but it has not been released yet. In the context of Wikipedia, the process is even more of a challenge because the YouTube format cannot be easily imported to Commons. It would also be an advantage to have transcripts available for those with hearing disabilities or who do not speak the language. There have been captioning and translation projects but they depend on transcripts.
If anyone has not seen the self paced tutorials in the WikiEd training library, here is the first one, a basic overview. https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training/students/wikipedia-essentials This type of tutorial has the advantage of being self paced and geared to visual learners (which is maybe 80% of an average class). Anyone who doesn't speak the language can easily use a translation tool to get a basic idea of the content.
On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:15 PM Bekriah Mawasi bekriahm@wikimedia.org.il wrote:
It's fascinating how diverse these tutorials are, especially that they serve a similar purpose, thank you very much for sharing!
At Wikimedia Israel we have been developing an instructional website in Arabic called Wiki Warsha ويكي ورشة ("wiki workshop"). The tutorials consist of multimedia elements (video, text, images), and are divided into 13 chapters taking into account the particularities of Arabic Wikipedia. The tutorials provide self-learners and new comers with basic information on the following: Wikipedia homepage structure, About Wikipedia articles, Creating an account, Signing with a registered account, Creating a userpage, Writing a new article, Editing an article, Formatting the article, Adding image, Adding internal and external links, Adding references, Adding categories, Request edits approval on Arabic Wikipedia. The choice to make video, text and image tutorials in a website format was made in order ensure access on different devices including smartphones and tablets, and to make the web content accessible to people with disabilities too.
Attaching in the link a sample draft of one of the videos we are working on, Adding images:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zV1CrIpoENpPd1OR4rRgy0QncR-NE1O8/view
In the past, the chapter has developed an interactive courseware in Hebrew which has proved to be successful. The courseware is divided into four chapters: 1) The interface 2) Editing article and userpage 3) Talk and community 4) Adding images. For example, Link: Editing interface < https://wikimedia.org.il/wp-content/plugins/sgc-wikimedia-elearning//Standin...
(Hebrew)
*Bekriah*
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:35 AM Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks very much for the information regarding these videos in Swedish, Basque, and Spanish. I'm impressed by the quality of the recent videos in Basque and Spanish that I watched, to the extent that I understand them.
In
the past two to three years have I also learned about recently produced instructional videos through publications such as affiliates' reports and *This Month in Education* <https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News .
To the extent that I understand the video in Spanish that Dennis linked <
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutoriales_WMCL_-_Agregar_referenc...
,
I think that it is very good, so I'm now thinking that I will suggest to WMF that I not create a Spanish version of the video that I am producing, but in the future if there is interest in having instructional videos in Spanish regarding different subjects that are not already covered by existing videos then I may propose creating Spanish versions of videos
that
I plan for English Wikipedia, Commons, or other projects.
As far as I know, there is no easily accessible catalog of what Wikimedia instructional videos exist. Finding some instructional videos is possible using the Commons category tree and by searching for file names on
Commons,
but not all videos are easy to find using those methods, and several instructional videos that I found on Commons are outdated. I boldly
created
a page here <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_ed...
for cataloging Wikimedia instructional videos, and I would like to invite people to expand that list, especially for videos which contain current information and have good production quality. Hopefully having a common catalog will help those of us who produce videos to get ideas from
watching
others' videos, and to consider whether to translate or reuse portions of existing videos. If someone thinks that they have a better idea for cataloging existing Wikimedia instructional videos, or if there is a catalog that already exists, please reply to this thread or contact me
off
list.
Regarding documenting my process, I am placing notes <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_ed...
on Meta that are in addition to the grant proposal, the talk page for the grant proposal, and the scripts.
Thanks again for sharing information.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
-- *بكريّة مواسي* *منسّقة المشاريع التّربويّة* *Bekriah Mawasi*
*Arabic Education Coordinator* _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
Hi Avery,
You might be interested in my final report from the previous grant, which is at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Motivational_and_educational_vide... .
I was not planning to publish the referencing videos to YouTube, but I think that's a good idea. Do you have any suggestions about how to make the videos be easy for people to find if they search for Wikipedia help with referencing on Youtube? If so, I would be appreciative if you'd add those comments to the project talk page at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_... .
Accessibility and translation are very much in my mind as I'm working on the current script. An issue to keep in mind is that the various language editions of Wikipedia have variations in policies and workflows, so translation alone may be insufficient to adapt a video or tutorial from one language edition of Wikipedia to another language edition of Wikipedia.
I like the interactive nature of the Wiki Ed tutorial. WMF's Growth Team is developing in-context help, which I think is also a good method for teaching. My guess is that the optimal ways to teach how to edit Wikipedia will be a combination of methods including video, interactive tutorials possibly with quizzes and certifications, in-context help, and individualized help. As an example of how the methods could be blended, I think that in-context help could offer video tutorials of varying lengths to cover certain subjects.
Thanks for the comments.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:24 PM Avery Jensen averydjensen@gmail.com wrote:
@Bekriah, that is very exciting. From time to time we have native Arabic speakers attend our events and have wondered how we could offer them instruction in Arabic. We would appreciate any further information you have on pending projects (or by email if it's not public or of general interest to this list).
@Pine, it has been suggested to me that your original project might have been slowed because of the complexity of not only the instruction itself, but also knowledge about how to make an instructional video. There is supposed to be an online course on making instructional videos, but it has not been released yet. In the context of Wikipedia, the process is even more of a challenge because the YouTube format cannot be easily imported to Commons. It would also be an advantage to have transcripts available for those with hearing disabilities or who do not speak the language. There have been captioning and translation projects but they depend on transcripts.
If anyone has not seen the self paced tutorials in the WikiEd training library, here is the first one, a basic overview. https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training/students/wikipedia-essentials This type of tutorial has the advantage of being self paced and geared to visual learners (which is maybe 80% of an average class). Anyone who doesn't speak the language can easily use a translation tool to get a basic idea of the content.