Hello education community!
I'm happy (and relieved) to announce that the new issue of This Month in Education https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News is out. There are some great stories to read, as well as a featured article about challenges written by Liang. Don't forget to submit your stories for the next issue by 20 April! Late submissions will go in the next month's issue.
Wish you a great week, and for those at WikiCon, enjoy the last day of the conference!
best,
Nichole
We need to have comments sections for the articles, especially in important articles that talk about our challenges.
I would bet that the issues Liang has faced are common ones among those of us to who organize programs and are the face of Wikipedia to one or more educational institutions.
There is a small assumption I think in the Q and A format. That there is an assumption what with a change in a particular program, a problem can be solved. This is definitely not always the case. For example, how much responsibility should a program coordinator or teacher have for the quality of work produced by students? It seems to me that organized student writing gets a lot more scrutiny than those done by the "typical" Wikipedian, and complaints against programs are not rare.
Liang's article indicates that he receives money to review student articles. A similar situation exists at my school (and is in development). However, is that really a scalable solution? Is this a norm which will develop, because it could leave out collaboration with institutions who cannot or dont want the expense.
I think these are things that we as a community need to consider, not just individual programs/coordinators here and there.
________________________________ From: Education education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Nichole Saad nsaad@wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:53:52 AM To: Wikimedia Education Subject: [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hello education community!
I'm happy (and relieved) to announce that the new issue of This Month in Educationhttps://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News is out. There are some great stories to read, as well as a featured article about challenges written by Liang. Don't forget to submit your stories for the next issue by 20 April! Late submissions will go in the next month's issue.
Wish you a great week, and for those at WikiCon, enjoy the last day of the conference!
best,
Nichole
-- Nichole Saad WMF | Education Program Manager nsaad@wikimedia.orgmailto:nsaad@wikimedia.org user: NSaad (WMF)
Want to talk about the Wikipedia Education Program? Schedule a meeting: https://calendly.com/nsaad-1
Hi!
What specifically do you mean with comments section?
There is always a talk page that can be used for comments. In the newsletter This Month in GLAM we let people who like to respond do that on the talk page. The template at the bottom of the article includes the comments of the talk page below the article. ( https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter )
Is that what be a solution for your comment?
Romaine
Op zaterdag 1 april 2017 heeft Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com het volgende geschreven:
We need to have comments sections for the articles, especially in important articles that talk about our challenges.
I would bet that the issues Liang has faced are common ones among those of us to who organize programs and are the face of Wikipedia to one or more educational institutions.
There is a small assumption I think in the Q and A format. That there is an assumption what with a change in a particular program, a problem can be solved. This is definitely not always the case. For example, how much responsibility should a program coordinator or teacher have for the quality of work produced by students? It seems to me that organized student writing gets a lot more scrutiny than those done by the "typical" Wikipedian, and complaints against programs are not rare.
Liang's article indicates that he receives money to review student articles. A similar situation exists at my school (and is in development). However, is that really a scalable solution? Is this a norm which will develop, because it could leave out collaboration with institutions who cannot or dont want the expense.
I think these are things that we as a community need to consider, not just individual programs/coordinators here and there.
*From:* Education <education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org');> on behalf of Nichole Saad <nsaad@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nsaad@wikimedia.org');> *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:53:52 AM *To:* Wikimedia Education *Subject:* [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hello education community!
I'm happy (and relieved) to announce that the new issue of This Month in Education https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News is out. There are some great stories to read, as well as a featured article about challenges written by Liang. Don't forget to submit your stories for the next issue by 20 April! Late submissions will go in the next month's issue.
Wish you a great week, and for those at WikiCon, enjoy the last day of the conference!
best,
Nichole
-- *Nichole Saad* WMF | Education Program Manager nsaad@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nsaad@wikimedia.org'); user: NSaad (WMF)
*Want to talk about the Wikipedia Education Program?* Schedule a meeting: https://calendly.com/nsaad-1
I was thinking along the lines of the Signpost.
________________________________ From: Education education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 7:56:57 AM To: Wikimedia Education Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hi!
What specifically do you mean with comments section?
There is always a talk page that can be used for comments. In the newsletter This Month in GLAM we let people who like to respond do that on the talk page. The template at the bottom of the article includes the comments of the talk page below the article. ( https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter )
Is that what be a solution for your comment?
Romaine
Op zaterdag 1 april 2017 heeft Leigh Thelmadatter <osamadre@hotmail.commailto:osamadre@hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
We need to have comments sections for the articles, especially in important articles that talk about our challenges.
I would bet that the issues Liang has faced are common ones among those of us to who organize programs and are the face of Wikipedia to one or more educational institutions.
There is a small assumption I think in the Q and A format. That there is an assumption what with a change in a particular program, a problem can be solved. This is definitely not always the case. For example, how much responsibility should a program coordinator or teacher have for the quality of work produced by students? It seems to me that organized student writing gets a lot more scrutiny than those done by the "typical" Wikipedian, and complaints against programs are not rare.
Liang's article indicates that he receives money to review student articles. A similar situation exists at my school (and is in development). However, is that really a scalable solution? Is this a norm which will develop, because it could leave out collaboration with institutions who cannot or dont want the expense.
I think these are things that we as a community need to consider, not just individual programs/coordinators here and there.
________________________________ From: Education <education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org');> on behalf of Nichole Saad <nsaad@wikimedia.orgjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nsaad@wikimedia.org');> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:53:52 AM To: Wikimedia Education Subject: [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hello education community!
I'm happy (and relieved) to announce that the new issue of This Month in Educationhttps://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News is out. There are some great stories to read, as well as a featured article about challenges written by Liang. Don't forget to submit your stories for the next issue by 20 April! Late submissions will go in the next month's issue.
Wish you a great week, and for those at WikiCon, enjoy the last day of the conference!
best,
Nichole
-- Nichole Saad WMF | Education Program Manager nsaad@wikimedia.orgjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nsaad@wikimedia.org'); user: NSaad (WMF)
Want to talk about the Wikipedia Education Program? Schedule a meeting: https://calendly.com/nsaad-1
Hi Leigh,
I agree with you that there should be an easy way to facilitate discussion. Last month I dedicated a specific page called "featured topic" to that task, but it went unused, and I do not think it was the best solution. I can look into including a comments section on the articles, but it will take some time. For this month, I encourage you to use the talk page on the article to discuss its contents. Would you mind posting your comments there?
all the best,
Nichole
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of the Signpost.
*From:* Education education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Romaine Wiki romaine.wiki@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2017 7:56:57 AM *To:* Wikimedia Education *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hi!
What specifically do you mean with comments section?
There is always a talk page that can be used for comments. In the newsletter This Month in GLAM we let people who like to respond do that on the talk page. The template at the bottom of the article includes the comments of the talk page below the article. ( https://outreach.wikimedia. org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter )
Is that what be a solution for your comment?
Romaine
Op zaterdag 1 april 2017 heeft Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com het volgende geschreven:
We need to have comments sections for the articles, especially in important articles that talk about our challenges.
I would bet that the issues Liang has faced are common ones among those of us to who organize programs and are the face of Wikipedia to one or more educational institutions.
There is a small assumption I think in the Q and A format. That there is an assumption what with a change in a particular program, a problem can be solved. This is definitely not always the case. For example, how much responsibility should a program coordinator or teacher have for the quality of work produced by students? It seems to me that organized student writing gets a lot more scrutiny than those done by the "typical" Wikipedian, and complaints against programs are not rare.
Liang's article indicates that he receives money to review student articles. A similar situation exists at my school (and is in development). However, is that really a scalable solution? Is this a norm which will develop, because it could leave out collaboration with institutions who cannot or dont want the expense.
I think these are things that we as a community need to consider, not just individual programs/coordinators here and there.
*From:* Education education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Nichole Saad nsaad@wikimedia.org *Sent:* Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:53:52 AM *To:* Wikimedia Education *Subject:* [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hello education community!
I'm happy (and relieved) to announce that the new issue of This Month in Education https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News is out. There are some great stories to read, as well as a featured article about challenges written by Liang. Don't forget to submit your stories for the next issue by 20 April! Late submissions will go in the next month's issue.
Wish you a great week, and for those at WikiCon, enjoy the last day of the conference!
best,
Nichole
-- *Nichole Saad* WMF | Education Program Manager nsaad@wikimedia.org user: NSaad (WMF)
*Want to talk about the Wikipedia Education Program?* Schedule a meeting: https://calendly.com/nsaad-1
Education mailing list Education@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education
I put them here (with a clarification based on a prior mail) https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Education/Newsletter/March_2017/Ove...
Is this what you mean?
________________________________ From: Education education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Nichole Saad nsaad@wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 9:27:30 AM To: Wikimedia Education Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hi Leigh,
I agree with you that there should be an easy way to facilitate discussion. Last month I dedicated a specific page called "featured topic" to that task, but it went unused, and I do not think it was the best solution. I can look into including a comments section on the articles, but it will take some time. For this month, I encourage you to use the talk page on the article to discuss its contents. Would you mind posting your comments there?
all the best,
Nichole
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter <osamadre@hotmail.commailto:osamadre@hotmail.com> wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of the Signpost.
________________________________ From: Education <education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki@gmail.commailto:romaine.wiki@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 7:56:57 AM To: Wikimedia Education Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hi!
What specifically do you mean with comments section?
There is always a talk page that can be used for comments. In the newsletter This Month in GLAM we let people who like to respond do that on the talk page. The template at the bottom of the article includes the comments of the talk page below the article. ( https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter )
Is that what be a solution for your comment?
Romaine
Op zaterdag 1 april 2017 heeft Leigh Thelmadatter <osamadre@hotmail.commailto:osamadre@hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
We need to have comments sections for the articles, especially in important articles that talk about our challenges.
I would bet that the issues Liang has faced are common ones among those of us to who organize programs and are the face of Wikipedia to one or more educational institutions.
There is a small assumption I think in the Q and A format. That there is an assumption what with a change in a particular program, a problem can be solved. This is definitely not always the case. For example, how much responsibility should a program coordinator or teacher have for the quality of work produced by students? It seems to me that organized student writing gets a lot more scrutiny than those done by the "typical" Wikipedian, and complaints against programs are not rare.
Liang's article indicates that he receives money to review student articles. A similar situation exists at my school (and is in development). However, is that really a scalable solution? Is this a norm which will develop, because it could leave out collaboration with institutions who cannot or dont want the expense.
I think these are things that we as a community need to consider, not just individual programs/coordinators here and there.
________________________________ From: Education education-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Nichole Saad nsaad@wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:53:52 AM To: Wikimedia Education Subject: [Wikimedia Education] March 2017 Issue of This Month in Education is out!
Hello education community!
I'm happy (and relieved) to announce that the new issue of This Month in Educationhttps://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News is out. There are some great stories to read, as well as a featured article about challenges written by Liang. Don't forget to submit your stories for the next issue by 20 April! Late submissions will go in the next month's issue.
Wish you a great week, and for those at WikiCon, enjoy the last day of the conference!
best,
Nichole
-- Nichole Saad WMF | Education Program Manager nsaad@wikimedia.org user: NSaad (WMF)
Want to talk about the Wikipedia Education Program? Schedule a meeting: https://calendly.com/nsaad-1
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-- Nichole Saad WMF | Education Program Manager nsaad@wikimedia.orgmailto:nsaad@wikimedia.org user: NSaad (WMF)
Want to talk about the Wikipedia Education Program? Schedule a meeting: https://calendly.com/nsaad-1