I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There were two problems. 1) as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create classes, I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than creators. This means that they cannot add students to their own course. That would not be such a big deal if not for ....2) The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves to a course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with the use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing "Tecnológico de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able to eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word "inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark. I just created a course for teacher training from now through next semester with the inscription here http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam... and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that the site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue. All language classes on three campuses are being asked/required to do something with es.wiki or Commons next semester. That is a LOT of classes and even more student students even if only a third of them work with es.wiki. I dont see how I can set up everything for teachers and students on the course extension. I have a request to get permission/flag at least for the teachers who worked with wiki last semester (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tabl%C3%B3n_de_anuncios_de_los_bibli...) but es.wiki right now requires applicants to hav significant editing experience, not just experience supervising students. No answer yet on whether it will be approved or not.
I guess this is a bug but I have no idea how or to whom to report it.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than creators. This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
That would not be such a big deal if not for .... 2) The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves to a course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with the use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing "Tecnológico de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able to eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word "inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next semester with the inscription here http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...) and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that the site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
All language classes on three campuses are being asked/required to do something with es.wiki or Commons next semester. That is a LOT of classes and even more student students even if only a third of them work with es.wiki. I dont see how I can set up everything for teachers and students on the course extension. I have a request to get permission/flag at least for the teachers who worked with wiki last semester (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tabl%C3%B3n_de_anuncios_de_los_bibli...) but es.wiki right now requires applicants to hav significant editing experience, not just experience supervising students. No answer yet on whether it will be approved or not.
I guess this is a bug but I have no idea how or to whom to report it.
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On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than creators. This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
If a user has been signed up on the course page as the instructor, they are able to add students to that course, even if they do not have the 'course instructor' user right. The area to add students shows up at the bottom of the course page, beneath the summary table and (if present) the table of students.
That would not be such a big deal if not for .... 2) The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves to a course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with the use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing "Tecnológico de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able to eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word "inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next semester with the inscription here http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...) and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that the site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this problem until now.
I tried replicating it, but I could not. Any idea what was different between when you tried it (and it worked) and when your husband tried (and it didn't)?
-Sage
In Czech, the accent marks work fine.
Everything works fine as long as you do not add a slash sign into your page name. Slash is a no-no.
best regards
Vojtěch Dostál
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2014-12-06 23:21 GMT+00:00 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com:
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create
classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than
creators.
This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
If a user has been signed up on the course page as the instructor, they are able to add students to that course, even if they do not have the 'course instructor' user right. The area to add students shows up at the bottom of the course page, beneath the summary table and (if present) the table of students.
That would not be such a big deal if not for .... 2) The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves
to a
course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with
the
use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing
"Tecnológico
de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able
to
eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word "inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next
semester
with the inscription here
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that
the
site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this problem until now.
I tried replicating it, but I could not. Any idea what was different between when you tried it (and it worked) and when your husband tried (and it didn't)?
-Sage
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We havent added any slashes. Just copy and paste the address generated at the bottom of the course page. I dont know what the difference is. We just tried it again now and it worked.
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 23:49:34 +0000 From: vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug
In Czech, the accent marks work fine.
Everything works fine as long as you do not add a slash sign into your page name. Slash is a no-no.
best regards
Vojtěch Dostál
místopředseda / vice-chairman Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook | Twitter | Newsletter
2014-12-06 23:21 GMT+00:00 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There
were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than creators.
This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
If a user has been signed up on the course page as the instructor,
they are able to add students to that course, even if they do not have
the 'course instructor' user right. The area to add students shows up
at the bottom of the course page, beneath the summary table and (if
present) the table of students.
That would not be such a big deal if not for ....
- The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves to a
course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with the
use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing "Tecnológico
de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able to
eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word
"inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next semester
with the inscription here
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband
tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that the
site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this problem until now.
I tried replicating it, but I could not. Any idea what was different
between when you tried it (and it worked) and when your husband tried
(and it didn't)?
-Sage
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Just had another professor tell me that he could not get to the registration page of the course. He tried both by clinking the link and by copy/pasting the url into his browser. We meet tomorrow and Ill let you know how many could and could not. This is the link to the registration to the course http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
From: osamadre@hotmail.com To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:58:37 -0700
We havent added any slashes. Just copy and paste the address generated at the bottom of the course page. I dont know what the difference is. We just tried it again now and it worked.
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 23:49:34 +0000 From: vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug
In Czech, the accent marks work fine.
Everything works fine as long as you do not add a slash sign into your page name. Slash is a no-no.
best regards
Vojtěch Dostál
místopředseda / vice-chairman Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook | Twitter | Newsletter
2014-12-06 23:21 GMT+00:00 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There
were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than creators.
This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
If a user has been signed up on the course page as the instructor,
they are able to add students to that course, even if they do not have
the 'course instructor' user right. The area to add students shows up
at the bottom of the course page, beneath the summary table and (if
present) the table of students.
That would not be such a big deal if not for ....
- The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves to a
course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with the
use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing "Tecnológico
de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able to
eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word
"inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next semester
with the inscription here
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband
tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that the
site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this problem until now.
I tried replicating it, but I could not. Any idea what was different
between when you tried it (and it worked) and when your husband tried
(and it didn't)?
-Sage
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Whoops—clicked to try and see what you meant, and it enrolled me. Can you unenroll me...either I don't know the word in Spanish or it's not an option for me.
Are you sure the instructors have a username and are logged in when they're clicking through?
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
Just had another professor tell me that he could not get to the registration page of the course. He tried both by clinking the link and by copy/pasting the url into his browser. We meet tomorrow and Ill let you know how many could and could not.
This is the link to the registration to the course
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
From: osamadre@hotmail.com To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:58:37 -0700
We havent added any slashes. Just copy and paste the address generated at the bottom of the course page.
I dont know what the difference is. We just tried it again now and it worked.
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 23:49:34 +0000 From: vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug
In Czech, the accent marks work fine.
Everything works fine as long as you do not add a slash sign into your page name. Slash is a no-no.
best regards
Vojtěch Dostál
místopředseda / vice-chairman Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Wikimedia.CR | Twitter https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_CR | Newsletter http://eepurl.com/FsHJr
2014-12-06 23:21 GMT+00:00 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com:
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create
classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than
creators.
This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
If a user has been signed up on the course page as the instructor, they are able to add students to that course, even if they do not have the 'course instructor' user right. The area to add students shows up at the bottom of the course page, beneath the summary table and (if present) the table of students.
That would not be such a big deal if not for .... 2) The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves
to a
course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with
the
use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing
"Tecnológico
de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able
to
eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word "inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next
semester
with the inscription here
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...) http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey%2c_Campus_Ciudad_de_Mexico/Capacitacion_de_profesores_%28%29
and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that
the
site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this problem until now.
I tried replicating it, but I could not. Any idea what was different between when you tried it (and it worked) and when your husband tried (and it didn't)?
-Sage
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Thanks for checking... I removed you, no problem
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 15:57:32 -0800 From: jami@wikiedu.org To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug
Whoops-clicked to try and see what you meant, and it enrolled me. Can you unenroll me...either I don't know the word in Spanish or it's not an option for me. Are you sure the instructors have a username and are logged in when they're clicking through? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
Just had another professor tell me that he could not get to the registration page of the course. He tried both by clinking the link and by copy/pasting the url into his browser. We meet tomorrow and Ill let you know how many could and could not. This is the link to the registration to the course http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
From: osamadre@hotmail.com To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:58:37 -0700
We havent added any slashes. Just copy and paste the address generated at the bottom of the course page. I dont know what the difference is. We just tried it again now and it worked.
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 23:49:34 +0000 From: vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug
In Czech, the accent marks work fine.
Everything works fine as long as you do not add a slash sign into your page name. Slash is a no-no.
best regards
Vojtěch Dostál
místopředseda / vice-chairman Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook | Twitter | Newsletter
2014-12-06 23:21 GMT+00:00 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There
were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than creators.
This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
If a user has been signed up on the course page as the instructor,
they are able to add students to that course, even if they do not have
the 'course instructor' user right. The area to add students shows up
at the bottom of the course page, beneath the summary table and (if
present) the table of students.
That would not be such a big deal if not for ....
- The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves to a
course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with the
use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing "Tecnológico
de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able to
eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word
"inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next semester
with the inscription here
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband
tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that the
site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this problem until now.
I tried replicating it, but I could not. Any idea what was different
between when you tried it (and it worked) and when your husband tried
(and it didn't)?
-Sage
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update. We had one of our teacher training sessions in preparation for next semester. Before we got started, the professor I mentioned earlier and I tried several ways to try and get the link to work. No luck. He was logged in to his wiki account but neither by clicking on the link or by copy/pasting the URL did we get anywhere.
We did a bunch of other stuff, including creating user pages, and getting started on translation assignments in talleres (sandboxes). I tried again with registering the teachers in the course extension as students, putting the link on my es.wiki userpage and voila!!! the link worked for all, including the professor who could not do so earlier.
Could it be that the user has to make a number of edits before they can register as a member of a class? Might be an es.wiki thing. Im still trying to get admin's attention over there to allow professors to create classes even though they dont have a lot (or in some cases very little) general editing experience.
From: osamadre@hotmail.com To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:05:45 -0700
Thanks for checking... I removed you, no problem
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 15:57:32 -0800 From: jami@wikiedu.org To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug
Whoops-clicked to try and see what you meant, and it enrolled me. Can you unenroll me...either I don't know the word in Spanish or it's not an option for me. Are you sure the instructors have a username and are logged in when they're clicking through? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
Just had another professor tell me that he could not get to the registration page of the course. He tried both by clinking the link and by copy/pasting the url into his browser. We meet tomorrow and Ill let you know how many could and could not. This is the link to the registration to the course http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
From: osamadre@hotmail.com To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:58:37 -0700
We havent added any slashes. Just copy and paste the address generated at the bottom of the course page. I dont know what the difference is. We just tried it again now and it worked.
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 23:49:34 +0000 From: vojtech.dostal@wikimedia.cz To: education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] course extension bug
In Czech, the accent marks work fine.
Everything works fine as long as you do not add a slash sign into your page name. Slash is a no-no.
best regards
Vojtěch Dostál
místopředseda / vice-chairman Wikimedia Česká republika / Wikimedia Czech Republic http://www.wikimedia.cz Facebook | Twitter | Newsletter
2014-12-06 23:21 GMT+00:00 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
I think Ive mentioned this here before but its still a problem
Last semester, we had nine classes in the es.wiki course extension. There
were two problems.
- as I am the only one (so far) with the permission/flag to create classes,
I have to add the (real) instructors as instructors, rather than creators.
This means that they cannot add students to their own course.
If a user has been signed up on the course page as the instructor,
they are able to add students to that course, even if they do not have
the 'course instructor' user right. The area to add students shows up
at the bottom of the course page, beneath the summary table and (if
present) the table of students.
That would not be such a big deal if not for ....
- The link that is generated for students to enter and add themselves to a
course sometimes works and sometimes not. It seems to be a problem with the
use of accent marks in words in the url. I thought by changing "Tecnológico
de Monterrey" to "Tec de Monterrey" as the institution name, Id be able to
eliminate the problem. However, unfortunately the url contains the word
"inscripción" (registration) with an accent mark.
I just created a course for teacher training from now through next semester
with the inscription here
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Inscripci%C3%B3n/Tec_de_Monterrey,_Cam...)
and tried registering under my account, which worked. But when my husband
tried on his computer with his account he received a message saying that the
site does not exist. Another teacher has emailed me with the same issue.
Interesting. I hadn't heard of this problem until now.
I tried replicating it, but I could not. Any idea what was different
between when you tried it (and it worked) and when your husband tried
(and it didn't)?
-Sage
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