Hi A number of my students are currently translating technical articles from English to Spanish and we have run into a problem.... Es.wiki does not recognize the database reference templates such as cite pmid and cite doi. A student who knows something about computers looked into it a bit and told me that the reason is that those templates function with a bot that scrapes the reference information from the database. However, it only functions in en.wiki. We either need a bot for es.wiki or the en.wiki bot needs to be modified to be able to send the scraped info to other languages. This student tells me he does not know how to do either. In two weeks we have a major editathon, with a large chunk of the student/participants working on translations, preferably articles relating to their majors. We are talking 250+ students on three campuses. Right now, we get around this problem by using the cita publicación template in es.wiki but of course it would make life a lot easier if we dont have to teach dozens of students or more how to do this. Can anyone help? Leigh
I'm pinging Maria with the hope that she might know a Spanish language bot builder who might be able to help. (:
Pine ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Leigh Thelmadatter" osamadre@hotmail.com Date: Feb 15, 2015 1:35 PM Subject: [Wikimedia Education] cite pmid y cite doi templates To: "Other Education List" education@lists.wikimedia.org Cc:
Hi
A number of my students are currently translating technical articles from English to Spanish and we have run into a problem....
Es.wiki does not recognize the database reference templates such as cite pmid and cite doi. A student who knows something about computers looked into it a bit and told me that the reason is that those templates function with a bot that scrapes the reference information from the database. However, it only functions in en.wiki. We either need a bot for es.wiki or the en.wiki bot needs to be modified to be able to send the scraped info to other languages. This student tells me he does not know how to do either.
In two weeks we have a major editathon, with a large chunk of the student/participants working on translations, preferably articles relating to their majors. We are talking 250+ students on three campuses.
Right now, we get around this problem by using the cita publicación template in es.wiki but of course it would make life a lot easier if we dont have to teach dozens of students or more how to do this.
Can anyone help?
Leigh
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Thanks Pine! appreciate it very much! Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:07:46 -0800 From: wiki.pine@gmail.com To: mcruz@wikimedia.org; education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia Education] Fwd: cite pmid y cite doi templates
I'm pinging Maria with the hope that she might know a Spanish language bot builder who might be able to help. (: Pine ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Leigh Thelmadatter" osamadre@hotmail.com Date: Feb 15, 2015 1:35 PM Subject: [Wikimedia Education] cite pmid y cite doi templates To: "Other Education List" education@lists.wikimedia.org Cc:
Hi A number of my students are currently translating technical articles from English to Spanish and we have run into a problem.... Es.wiki does not recognize the database reference templates such as cite pmid and cite doi. A student who knows something about computers looked into it a bit and told me that the reason is that those templates function with a bot that scrapes the reference information from the database. However, it only functions in en.wiki. We either need a bot for es.wiki or the en.wiki bot needs to be modified to be able to send the scraped info to other languages. This student tells me he does not know how to do either. In two weeks we have a major editathon, with a large chunk of the student/participants working on translations, preferably articles relating to their majors. We are talking 250+ students on three campuses. Right now, we get around this problem by using the cita publicación template in es.wiki but of course it would make life a lot easier if we dont have to teach dozens of students or more how to do this. Can anyone help? Leigh
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We are encountering that sort of problem regularly with the Wikimedia Research Newsletter [1] (which is compiled on the English Wikipedia, where these templates are present, and then ported to Meta, where they are not). Until Citation bot [2] has been ported to the Spanish Wikipedia, or the bright future of Citoid [3] has arrived everywhere, you could use template expansion as a quick workaround:
Simply paste the text of the citation template ("{{Cite| ...}}", "{{Cite doi|...}}" or such) into [4], and copy the result into the Spanish Wikipedia article. The result will be a bit more complicated in the source wikitext, but should look identical to the reader (example: [5]).
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Citation_bot [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Newsletter/2015/February#Lookin... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research:Newsletter/2014/August...
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi
A number of my students are currently translating technical articles from English to Spanish and we have run into a problem....
Es.wiki does not recognize the database reference templates such as cite pmid and cite doi. A student who knows something about computers looked into it a bit and told me that the reason is that those templates function with a bot that scrapes the reference information from the database. However, it only functions in en.wiki. We either need a bot for es.wiki or the en.wiki bot needs to be modified to be able to send the scraped info to other languages. This student tells me he does not know how to do either.
In two weeks we have a major editathon, with a large chunk of the student/participants working on translations, preferably articles relating to their majors. We are talking 250+ students on three campuses.
Right now, we get around this problem by using the cita publicación template in es.wiki but of course it would make life a lot easier if we dont have to teach dozens of students or more how to do this.
Can anyone help?
Leigh
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Thanks Tilman. The expand template tool is certainly easier than looking for the citation information back in the original English article.
From: tbayer@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:49:17 -0800 To: education@lists.wikimedia.org CC: dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] cite pmid y cite doi templates
We are encountering that sort of problem regularly with the Wikimedia Research Newsletter [1] (which is compiled on the English Wikipedia, where these templates are present, and then ported to Meta, where they are not). Until Citation bot [2] has been ported to the Spanish Wikipedia, or the bright future of Citoid [3] has arrived everywhere, you could use template expansion as a quick workaround:
Simply paste the text of the citation template ("{{Cite| ...}}", "{{Cite doi|...}}" or such) into [4], and copy the result into the Spanish Wikipedia article. The result will be a bit more complicated in the source wikitext, but should look identical to the reader (example: [5]).
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Citation_bot [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Newsletter/2015/February#Lookin... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research:Newsletter/2014/August...
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi
A number of my students are currently translating technical articles from English to Spanish and we have run into a problem....
Es.wiki does not recognize the database reference templates such as cite pmid and cite doi. A student who knows something about computers looked into it a bit and told me that the reason is that those templates function with a bot that scrapes the reference information from the database. However, it only functions in en.wiki. We either need a bot for es.wiki or the en.wiki bot needs to be modified to be able to send the scraped info to other languages. This student tells me he does not know how to do either.
In two weeks we have a major editathon, with a large chunk of the student/participants working on translations, preferably articles relating to their majors. We are talking 250+ students on three campuses.
Right now, we get around this problem by using the cita publicación template in es.wiki but of course it would make life a lot easier if we dont have to teach dozens of students or more how to do this.
Can anyone help?
Leigh
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