Martin's advice is good, but again, I'd be wary about directly encouraging this. It could be abused in the ways you suggested in your first email.
Where, by the way, are you discussing this project on wiki? I'm sure that other Wikipedia editors will have useful input.
Take care
Jon
On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Jennifer Gristock gristock@me.com wrote:
Thank you Martin, these sound like very good guidelines when contributing a whole article on a topic.
This seems to me to be a sensible addition to advice concerning whether it is permissible to cite yourself within an article, as a reference a contributed fact or finding. [Answer: Yes, bearing in mind the context as outlined by Charles and others].
For research areas that are new, and have no review papers yet, Wikipedia is a real agent for collaboration.
Thanks so much to everyone for helping with this.
Jenny. / Open Research
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On 10 Jul 2014, at 18:09, Martin Walker walkerma@potsdam.edu wrote:
I advise that researchers either:
Write on topics where you have knowledge and interest but few publications; researching for a WP article may help you prepare to work and publish in that area!
If you do write on a topic where you actively publish, then you should collaborate with other respected editors, and let them make the choices about which papers are cited, etc. I encourage academics to work with the relevant WikiProject; by having the WP community involved with the article it is much more likely to be balanced and less likely to be reverted or even deleted.
I know one very prominent researcher actively editing WP, and he advocates the use of published topic-review articles and book chapters as sources. He believes that primary academic papers are less useful anyway (at least in science), and the reviews/books give a broader perspective that is more appropriate for an encyclopedia.
In my experience, people active in a research field often have very strong views about what is important and what is not. They may have a unique perspective the drives their work, but others in the field may consider it a distorted view. This affects how topics are covered in an article - and it goes well beyond the citations at the bottom.
Martin A. Walker Department of Chemistry State University of New York at Potsdam +1 (315) 267-2271 walkerma@potsdam.edu
On 7/10/2014 12:51 PM, Pau Cabot wrote:
2014-07-10 18:17 GMT+02:00 Jennifer Gristock <gristock@me.com mailto:gristock@me.com>:
I would be much obliged if those who agree with Pau could +1 his email (or this one) so that I can be sure that the whole system I am attempting to design, - which involves academics and their students contributing information from their own research and citing it - does not by definition forbidden because of COI.
In addition: I think researchers have a great field to contribute which does not involve citing their own references. If you're an expert in organolithium chemistry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organolithium_chemistry, you could write about that without having to cite your own works, writing articles slightly related to the purpose of your research. I think that it is possible, and It's the fairest way to do it.
Alternatively, you could cite your own work if it's the only source that states one specific fact (and maybe explaining it at the discussion of the article).
Pau.
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