Hello Alexandre,
Alexandre Hocquet alexandre.hocquet@univ-lorraine.fr escreveu no dia segunda, 18/02/2019 à(s) 04:53:
On 16/02/2019 21:30, Paulo Santos Perneta wrote:
I confess that my knowlege of what is actually and routinely going on in OTRS is based on indirect (and partial) observation (and I'd like to know more about it) but I don't see how an example such as ours would work. What and where would be the cited reference in the article in such a change ?
Something around <ref>Birth certificate, see OTRS Ticket #2019021810005699 </ref> would probably do. At least that's what I would do, if I received such a ticket (I'm part of the OTRS team).
Well I believe we disagree on the merits of primary and secondary
sources then. I believe that the virtue of secondary sources lies in its analysis, which is supposed to be missing in the primary sources, not its quotation.
I don't believe we disagree, no, at least completely. Analysis, when available, is very useful, *in addition* to the primary source. But secondary sources that only parrot the original thing are absolutely worthless, IMO. In the case of Olivia Colman, the birth certificate, if available, would still be the best possible source, which could be complemented with any available analysis. Newspapers, biographers or historians simply stating her age out of the blue should be avoided, if possible, at least in the face of proper documentation about it.
Best regards, Paulo