When you resend the revised form, can you delete all of the existing data submitted under the previous version to ensure that unneeded information won't be stored?
Andrew
Sent from my smartphone. Apologies for any typos.
-------- Original message -------- From: Shani Evenstein shani.even@gmail.com Date: 2018-11-12 1:44 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Education ML education@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] join user group without google
Hello all,
There seems to be some misunderstanding -- * We are recognized by AffCom. The details we requested are for a future option we might want to persue, of refistering as a charity *outside* the Wikimedia movement. * Details are not posted to this mailing list, but rather to a closed and private google form, which is only availabe to 2 people: the membership admin (Filip) and the chair (me). * Some details were asked so if we decide to apply to become a charity, we will already have the details; while other details are meant to help us connect the right people to the right people, when newcomers approach us. * There is precedent for asking such details with both chapters & the WikiProject Medicine User Group, which is similar in acrivity to our UG. * That said, as this is concerning people, the board will reconsider changing the form. The idea is to make it easy to participate, not difficult. If we end up deciding to register as a charity outside the WM Movement, we'll ask for more details.
So stay tuned. Filip will send a new version of the form in the coming week.
Best, Shani.
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:57 Avery Jensen, averydjensen@gmail.com wrote:
I do not understand why they are asking people for personal data at all.
The Wikimedia Foundation has requirements for people with access to personal information. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access_to_nonpublic_personal_data_policy
It looks like they want to apply for official recognition from the affiliations committee. Groups are not required to do this, but it has some advantages, like using the trademarks. The application requires " two primary contacts willing to identify themselves with the Wikimedia Foundation." https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups It also says if someone wants to form an official group, they can have "Affiliations Committee Liaison support during and after the approval process". If that is what they are trying to do, they need to have some advice about starting a group, so they do not cause the Wikimedia Foundation some legal problem.
I would also strongly recommend that people not post their phone numbers to this list. Unlike the Wikimedia projects, information on a mailing list cannot be removed and is indexed by search engines.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:59 AM Alexandre Hocquet < alexandre.hocquet@univ-lorraine.fr> wrote:
On 12/11/2018 09:36, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
I agree in that point.
Although what points Ilario is relevant, my main concern (as Avery points out too) is more the use of Google forms with *mandatory* fields to fill than the privacy policy of the user group and/or the "centre for Internet & society" (although I agree that more clarity on that point might help too)
In short, if applying to membership means compulsory give away of pieces of information like phone numbers to Google, then I'm not in.
Alternatively, if google document it is, then the least would be to NOT make the fields to fill up mandatory. --
Alexandre Hocquet
Université de Lorraine & Archives Henri Poincaré Alexandre.Hocquet@univ-lorraine.fr http://poincare.univ-lorraine.fr/fr/membre-titulaire/alexandre-hocquet
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