Does anyone know whether the screen allowed a user to click through?
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A screenshot has been uploaded to
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMF_global_climate_strike_banner_20…
.
Unfortunately, though
web.archive.org has snapshots of the website,
these do not appear to render the banner as it displayed in a browser
on the day.
Fae
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On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 09:30, Alexander N Krassotkin
<krassotkin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have a screenshot of the page with this banner? Or a
link to an online archive? Or at least the banner itself?
sasha.
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 9:54 PM Dennis During <dcduring(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I couldn't get onto WP or en.wikt shortly after I had heard about the
MW
> participation in the strike. I jumped to an
apparently wrong
conclusion.
> Sorry.
>
> I am glad that the availability of free knowledge for all was not
disrupted.
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:19 AM Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > As far as I can tell, only the Foundation wiki is showing the strike
> > message. That particular one is pretty much theirs to do as they
like
with.
> >
> > If they started doing that to any other wikis without their
agreement,
> > well, then we'd have a problem. But
so long as it's only the WMF wiki
> > itself, I don't see the issue.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 6:45 PM Dennis During <dcduring(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > I am profoundly disappointed that WMF employees don't value the
mission.
> > > Instead they seem to simply follow
fashion and force users and
volunteers
> > > to follow their fashionable
methods of advocacy. They use their
monopoly
> > > power to deny free access to the
world's knowledge that many
thousands of
> > > volunteers have diligently
assembled. This time it is to show
solidarity
> > > with environmental advocates. What
will it be next time?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 15:35 Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a few comments.
> > > >
> > > > While I appreciate the sentiment, I wouldn't have put the
> > > >
wikimediafoundation.org domain "on strike", just as I
wouldn't
have
> > put
> > > a
> > > > government agency's website "on strike". I think that
some
discussion
> > of
> > > > climate change would be fine, but I think that WMF's action here
is
> > > > somewhat strange.
> > > >
> > > > I think that asking about the climate impact of staff travel is
fine.
> > > > However, I would also include
questions about travel for
Wikimedia
> > events
> > > > more broadly. I believe that the WMF Board has indicated support
for
> > > trying
> > > > to reduce the Wikiverse's contributions to climate change. As
has been
> > > > mentioned in this thread, WMF
released a report yesterday
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-September/093519.html
> > > > >
> > > > on the subject of sustainability. While I have not read it, I
think
> > that
> > > > measuring and attempting to reduce reduce negative environmental
> > impacts
> > > > from Wikimedia activities is good, including negative
environmental
> > > impacts
> > > > from travel. However, I also think that there are some benefits
to
> > morale
> > > > and communications from in person meetings, so I would be
reluctant to
> > > > eliminate travel and
conferences entirely.
> > > >
> > > > I think that it's fine to ask whether WMF senior management is
> > practicing
> > > > what they preach. However, Fae, I feel that your tone in this
thread is
> > > > excessively harsh on this
point. I think that you could ask very
> > similar
> > > > questions with a tone that is calmer.
> > > >
> > > > On the subject of environmental sustainability, my main concern
at this
> > > > time is the banner on the WMF
website which I feel is somewhat
weird
> > and
> > > is
> > > > inconsistent with WMF's goal of being "essential
infrastructure". Do we
> > > > want "essential
infrastructure" to go on strike, particularly
when that
> > > > infrastructure is supposed to
be for an organization that
provides
> > public
> > > > service and supports the community in publishing reliable
scientific
> > > > information? I think not.
However, I think that the banner is
> > regrettably
> > > > consistent with the series of surprising decisions from WMF in
the past
> > > few
> > > > months. That is, to me, the most concerning element in all of
this. If
> > > WMF
> > > > wants to be a public service infrastructure provider then I
think that
> > it
> > > > should act like one.
> > > >
> > > > Pine
> > > > (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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