Does anyone know whether the screen allowed a user to click through?
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
A screenshot has been uploaded to
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMF_global_climate_strike_banner_201... .
Unfortunately, though web.archive.org has snapshots of the website, these do not appear to render the banner as it displayed in a browser on the day.
Fae
faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 09:30, Alexander N Krassotkin krassotkin@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have a screenshot of the page with this banner? Or a link to an online archive? Or at least the banner itself?
sasha.
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 9:54 PM Dennis During dcduring@gmail.com
wrote:
I couldn't get onto WP or en.wikt shortly after I had heard about the
MW
participation in the strike. I jumped to an apparently wrong
conclusion.
Sorry.
I am glad that the availability of free knowledge for all was not
disrupted.
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:19 AM Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com
wrote:
As far as I can tell, only the Foundation wiki is showing the strike message. That particular one is pretty much theirs to do as they
like with.
If they started doing that to any other wikis without their
agreement,
well, then we'd have a problem. But so long as it's only the WMF wiki itself, I don't see the issue.
Todd
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 6:45 PM Dennis During dcduring@gmail.com
wrote:
I am profoundly disappointed that WMF employees don't value the
mission.
Instead they seem to simply follow fashion and force users and
volunteers
to follow their fashionable methods of advocacy. They use their
monopoly
power to deny free access to the world's knowledge that many
thousands of
volunteers have diligently assembled. This time it is to show
solidarity
with environmental advocates. What will it be next time?
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 15:35 Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I have a few comments.
While I appreciate the sentiment, I wouldn't have put the wikimediafoundation.org domain "on strike", just as I wouldn't
have
put
a
government agency's website "on strike". I think that some
discussion
of
climate change would be fine, but I think that WMF's action here
is
somewhat strange.
I think that asking about the climate impact of staff travel is
fine.
However, I would also include questions about travel for
Wikimedia
events
more broadly. I believe that the WMF Board has indicated support
for
trying
to reduce the Wikiverse's contributions to climate change. As
has been
mentioned in this thread, WMF released a report yesterday <
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2019-September/093519.html
> on the subject of sustainability. While I have not read it, I
think
that
measuring and attempting to reduce reduce negative environmental
impacts
from Wikimedia activities is good, including negative
environmental
impacts
from travel. However, I also think that there are some benefits
to
morale
and communications from in person meetings, so I would be
reluctant to
eliminate travel and conferences entirely.
I think that it's fine to ask whether WMF senior management is
practicing
what they preach. However, Fae, I feel that your tone in this
thread is
excessively harsh on this point. I think that you could ask very
similar
questions with a tone that is calmer.
On the subject of environmental sustainability, my main concern
at this
time is the banner on the WMF website which I feel is somewhat
weird
and
is
inconsistent with WMF's goal of being "essential
infrastructure". Do we
want "essential infrastructure" to go on strike, particularly
when that
infrastructure is supposed to be for an organization that
provides
public
service and supports the community in publishing reliable
scientific
information? I think not. However, I think that the banner is
regrettably
consistent with the series of surprising decisions from WMF in
the past
few
months. That is, to me, the most concerning element in all of
this. If
WMF
wants to be a public service infrastructure provider then I
think that
it
should act like one.
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