Hoi, You do not get it. For me this is about saying goodbye. Saying goodbye to someone I/we truly value. Saying goodbye to someone who we owe gratitude. This was not allowed to be, we say goodbye and we are told that we are wrong because a situation where the POV expressed is that we cannot say goodbye, express our gratitude because they are / feel aggrieved.
I have no opinion on why this situation exists, what transpired. What I object to is that there is no room given for our feeling of loss. That is an injustice in its own right. Thanks, GerardM
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 00:26, Pierre-Selim pierre-selim@huard.info wrote:
Her POV ?
Well I can confirm what Caroline said.
What more do you want ? To verify all other reports ?
It's sad that things have escalated this far, but may be it's time to wonder why it escalated like that. There was multiple incidents reported. Things that should have stayed private were told on this mailing list by Romaine... well when do we stop this ?
Please keep in mind when you cast your support here that people who have reported Romaine might be reading this.
Le jeu. 20 juin 2019 à 23:12, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com a écrit :
Caroline, For me this is not your story. Your insistence of making it so has quite the opposite effect. I have known Romaine, the tireless efforts for us
all
he has given us over the years, I grieve for our collective loss. I do
not
know you and you are intruding on what is a feeling shared by many. It
may
help you when you grow some sensitivity and respect this experience, the feelings of others. Maybe it is too difficult for you, I do not know as I do not know you at all.
What I wonder is to what extend do you know Romaine, to what extend are
you
stuck in your pov. Thanks, GerardM
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 19:00, Caroline Becker carobecker54@gmail.com wrote:
This is such a lost. Not only did you waisted an opportunity to learn
and
grow from your mistakes the first time, you reiterate here, showing no willingness to grow and learn.
But why would you take the difficult path, when by just claiming your
right
to "weirdness" (which I guess only apply to you and none to the people
you
hurt), you're rewarding with public support ?
Caroline
Le jeu. 20 juin 2019 à 18:55, Dennis During dcduring@gmail.com a
écrit :
I am ashamed that the movement has a climate that allows this
unfortunate
outcome
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 7:15 AM Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear community,
About a month ago I have decided that I will indefinitely no longer
attend
any WMF funded events as result of bullying, attempts to silence
me,
intimidation and treats against me. This has resulted in that I
feel
extremely unsafe as the result of the behaviour of only a few
individuals.
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