Thanks Joseph. How weird.
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 at 3:01 pm, Joseph Seddon jseddon@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey Anthony,
Apologies for the delay on this.
To the best of our knowledge, this ad isn't being run by the Wikimedia Foundation nor any vendor of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Regards Seddon
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:12 AM, Anthony Cole ahcoleecu@gmail.com wrote:
That Google ad (describing Wikipedia as the fact-checked encyclopedia) is still the top result when I search for “wikipedia” in Australia.
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 at 8:57 pm, Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac@gmail.com
wrote:
Leigh, I disagree that all projects are hostile to outsiders. When
someone
edit in a language they do not speak and use machine to translate
contents
for example and refused to stop after multiple warnings, a block in
such
case may not be considered an "hostile" response. That being said, I completely agree with Rob that fact-checked encyclopedia is more appropriate considering the hostility in some language Wikipedia,
notably
the English Wikipedia. How do you describe a Wikipedia where someone
create
their first article and got deleted and when the page creator
approached
the deleting admin on why their article got deleted and the response
they
received is "Kindly have the decency to create a decent article ",
"count
yourself lucky, I don't talk to IP address "?
Regards,
Isaac.
On Apr 15, 2018 3:21 PM, "Leigh Thelmadatter" osamadre@hotmail.com wrote:
Not just English Wikipedia. All of the projects are hostile to
"outsiders"
Those not in English might even be worse for several reasons
Enviado desde mi LG de Telcel
------ Original message------ From: Robert Fernandez Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 9:17 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Cc: Subject:Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia
Considering the barriers to entry, growing thicket of policies, organized group harassment, and open hostility on the English Wikipedia, I'm not sure we can even call it "the encyclopedia anyone can edit" anymore. So I'd say fact-checked is a more accurate and relevant claim these days.
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Anthony Cole ahcoleecu@gmail.com
wrote:
I just googled “wikipedia” and the first result was a Google ad
linking
to
wikipedia.org.[1] It calls Wikipedia the fact-checked encyclopedia.
We
used
to call it the encyclopedia anyone can edit. The latter seems more
honest
than this new formulation which to me implies a degree of
reliability
and
oversight I'm not sure we can ethically assert. I missed the
discussion
about this new self-description. Did it happen on meta? Is anyone
else
uncomfortabe with this?
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