Most editions of most books published in the last 40 years (certainly books from reliable publishers) have an ISBN that identifies one edition. Most reliable journal articles these days have a doi. For simple citing of web pages, you could automatically convert bare urls to archived versions of the cited web page.
There is a difference between unreliable assertions and knowledge. Wikimedia should be distributing knowledge. That's what the mission statement says. Wikidata could take citation a bit more seriously. On 26 Jan 2016 5:59 pm, "Jane Darnell" jane023@gmail.com wrote:
That is so true! Making book items is hard and then using them in reference statements is harder
-----Original Message----- From: "Andrea Zanni" zanni.andrea84@gmail.com Sent: 26-1-2016 09:20 To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
- It is really laborious to add references. Many references are a
book a
publication and I give you one example of a book [1]. It takes MUCH
more
time to add a source than it is to add a statement. The book, the authors they need sources in their own right..
Also, Wikidata has not found a way yet to work with books. Yes, it's relatively easy to create an item for a recent book and populate it with a few statements relatively to the main metadata (author, year of publishing, publisher).
What we don't have is a way to *consistently* work with books (which have often many translations and editions). We cannot import (yet) library catalogs in wikidata[1]. We don't even have a consistent way to link Wikidata to Wikisource (index pages, ns0 pages).
I think this is quite relevant for the reference issue.
Aubrey
[1] there is an ongoing project with the National Library of Florence, in Italy. We now have a script to import records in WIkibase, and will do on a local one. Then we will approach Wikidata. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe