Most editions of most books published in the last 40 years (certainly books
from reliable publishers) have an ISBN that identifies one edition. Most
reliable journal articles these days have a doi. For simple citing of web
pages, you could automatically convert bare urls to archived versions of
the cited web page.
There is a difference between unreliable assertions and knowledge.
Wikimedia should be distributing knowledge. That's what the mission
statement says. Wikidata could take citation a bit more seriously.
On 26 Jan 2016 5:59 pm, "Jane Darnell" <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:
That is so true! Making book items is hard and then
using them in
reference statements is harder
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From: "Andrea Zanni" <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
- It is really laborious to add references.
Many references are a
book a
publication and I give you one example of a
book [1]. It takes MUCH
more
time to add a source than it is to add a
statement. The book, the
authors
they need sources in their own right..
Also, Wikidata has not found a way yet to work with books.
Yes, it's relatively easy to create an item for a recent book and populate
it with a few statements relatively to the main metadata (author, year of
publishing, publisher).
What we don't have is a way to *consistently* work with books (which have
often many translations and editions). We cannot import (yet) library
catalogs in wikidata[1]. We don't even have a consistent way to link
Wikidata to Wikisource (index pages, ns0 pages).
I think this is quite relevant for the reference issue.
Aubrey
[1] there is an ongoing project with the National Library of Florence, in
Italy. We now have a script to import records in WIkibase, and will do on a
local one. Then we will approach Wikidata.
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